RE: prevent votes on anonymous posts (Ozymandias: Merits of Voting AM Posts)

[Ozymandias]

It depends on what you view as the point of voting. If you're viewing voting purely as a means of registering approval of the person posting the node, then yes, voting for Anonymous Monk posts is pointless. And there's no doubt that there is some element of that in voting for posts.

But there's another purpose, as well. Voting for a node indicates, or should indicate, your approval of the node itself, and the items and ideas contained inside. The purpose here is to indicate that you approve of the node; if it has a high positive value, it appears on the Best Nodes list, where others can see it, and more will take notice of it. The same goes in the opposite direction, with nodes in the Worst Nodes list.

If we ask vroom to make changes to the Anonymous Monk system, I'd prefer he simply remove it, and no longer allow anonymous posting. Voting should be anonymous. There's no need for posting to be, except perhaps in the Seekers of Perl Wisdom section. But that's already been argued.

- email Ozymandias

[ybiC]

Hmmm... many well-stated and thought-out responses. Some of these lead me to clarify a bit:

I don't vote to show appoval of Monks, but to reinforce behavior of Monks, as demonstrated by their posts. Since anonymous monk doesn't care about XP or reputation, my voting an AM post up or down has little direct impact on future behavior of AM's. Indirect impact was given by at least a couple o' fine Monks.

I agree with the principle of voting the node regardless of posting Monk. But I also temper that with a bit of grace toward new Monks, to help foster the open environment we all enjoy here at the Monastery.

Several wise Monks told why they do vote on AM posts, and I respect their thinking. I don't have to agree   8^)   but I wouldn't force my approach on anyone who sees differently than I do. So... I retract my suggestion to disable voting on AM posts. In the future, I'll watch more closely for AM posts before voting. Thanks to all Monks who offered their insights.
    cheers,
    ybiC

[vnpandey]

Yes That seems to be really effective and realistic..Infact voting also shows to the monk himself that his question was appreciated or not..Also I myself got some -25 votes on single nodes but yes as I was new and didnot knew how to post without this voting how would I have improved? (this was when I was anonymus monk itself) Thanks ybic for taking it sportingly... --vnpandey

[vnpandey]

Yes That seems to be really effective and realistic..Infact voting also shows to the monk himself that his question was appreciated or not..Also I myself got some -25 votes on single nodes but yes as I was new and didnot knew how to post without this voting how would I have improved? (this was when I was anonymus monk itself) Thanks ybic for raising a very impt question. --vnpandey

[Macphisto]

Hard to say on this one...Voting on an Anonymous Monk seems wasteful, but as pointed out above it does rate the level of the post. Thus, it should stay in, but perhaps modified. Vote on the post, but it shouldn't reflect on the AM. The beatings will continue until morale raises.