RE: Employment Status
by neshura (Chaplain) on May 17, 2000 at 21:45 UTC
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Check out related thread.
Do you really think recruiters will quietly confine their
postings to a small area of Perl Monks that doesn't even
show up under "Newest Nodes"? My experience with recruiters
is that they will pose as a fellow tech person
(not outright lying, but implying), or run you down with
their car so they can give you a business card, or call
you every @$* day for weeks until you finally break down
and promise to send them your sister's first born kid as
soon as he gets his CS degree.
Or maybe I'm just bitter and inclined towards
doom-and-gloom soothsaying.
Anyway, what about linking? Instead of posting perl jobs
here, post them in the appropriate spot (monster.com or
elance or guru.com) and then stick a link in your sig or bio...
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I think the general idea would be to have fellow monks that are hiring to post in a special section what positions and/or skills required for a job are. I seriously doubt that a site like perlmonks would be flooded by headhunters. I would gladly post a job description to perlmonks and go on about my usual monk life reading and replying to other posts without bugging everyone about a job...
I'm no headhunter and I have no inclination towards pestering people with job offering info! BTW: wanna leave Happy comPany? :o)
Sorry, I just had to tease.
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RE: Employment Status
by perlmonkey (Hermit) on May 17, 2000 at 12:27 UTC
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I think this sounds fun to me. I know I wouldn't mind seeing
if anyone here was looking for employment. The company I work
for is always looking for good perl people.
Similarly I think it would be neat to add a special area for
available job posting. I know people dont want to clutter
up the message boards with job postings, and I whole heartedly agree.
I dont want to see a flood of job crap unless I am looking.
But It would be cool if there was a serperate area where jobs
can get posted, and maybe can't get replied to. And these
new posting dont get posted to the Newest Nodes to prevent the
clutter. So you have to go out of your way to find them, or
have a special user option to enable tracking of new jobs in
the Newest Nodes page.
I think this would be cool to be able to see the variety of perl jobs
out there. I am getting really freaking tired of making cgi
program after program, I feel like I am turning into a
one trick pony (uhh ... make that monkey?). So I am starting to look for something a little
different and challenging with perl, but I havent found much. Just tons
more cgi perl jobs.
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RE: Employment Status
by perlmonkey (Hermit) on May 18, 2000 at 05:27 UTC
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I suppose I agree with peoples reluctance for job postings.
Perhaps this is not the best place to put it.
But I sort of disagree with the troll recuiters argument.
There is nothing now preventing recruiters from
adding crap to the site, trolls will show up eventually as this
site becomes more popular, it is an unfortunate
reality.
Basically instead of the job board it would be nice to see
just company names
and locations where I could do real perl programming.
If I want to find out more, the company home pages should
have all the details, so no reason to put it here.
Maybe this kind of list is already available somewhere
else?
Everybody and their dog requires you know perl in job listings,
but how
many of them want you to actually do engineering in perl,
or
help engineer perl itself? That is the kind of job I
am interested in. It seems that most companies have
already put perl in a little niche, like "perl is for cgi"
or "perl is for shell scripting", where the language is only
used for farily simple tasks.
So maybe I should start another dicsussion topic, but I
am interested in hearing what companies
do serious engineering with perl, or if there are people
out there that are getting paid to do really cool stuff with
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RE: Employment Status
by ChuckularOne (Prior) on May 17, 2000 at 17:24 UTC
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How about adding:
Have a job, Looking for side work.
Your Humble Servant,
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RE: Employment Status
by httptech (Chaplain) on May 17, 2000 at 22:27 UTC
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Yeah, I'm a little leery about having a job posting area,
because of the fear of attracting overly aggressive recruiters, and also
because you get a lot of responses to one ad, and it sucks
to have to turn down your fellow Monks.
I'd rather just be able to see if someone is looking for
work; and if I like what I've seen on their posts on Perl
Monks, I'll just send them a note directly.
Of course, this doesn't stop a recruiter from scanning all
the user nodes and compiling a list of job seekers and then
spamming them :(
Maybe you should only be able to view someone else's employment
status after you've gotten to a certain level of XP.
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I think that there should be, as was originaly suggested, a kind of work state option on the home node, then job agencies wouldn't be such a problem - spamming would be confined to those who 'wanted' it.
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RE: Employment Status
by BBQ (Curate) on May 17, 2000 at 21:00 UTC
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Dude, I'm hiring!! There's only one catch:
Anyone want to come work in São Paulo / Brazil?
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It would be cool to have this on a non-regional basis. I'm based in London and am actively looking for work. It would be a good thing to see more sites with a less America-centric approach to things.
By the Way - if you'll fly me out for an interview I might be interested... :-)
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