The Stack Overflow 2020 Survey is out.

Perl is simultaneously 23rd most loved and 3rd most dreaded.

Perl is also tied in 4th place, with Kotlin, Ruby and Rust, in highest paying in the US and first overall, tied with Scala.

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Re: Perl in Stack Overflow 2020 Survey
by bliako (Prior) on May 29, 2020 at 11:49 UTC

    Edit: sorry, (this is what fooled me, saying "97% dont use it" anyway too trigger-happy I am, sorry for the noise) I have just read more carefully the captions for love:

     % of developers who are developing with the language or technology and have expressed interest in continuing to develop with it

    and dread:

    % of developers who are developing with the language or technology but have not expressed interest in continuing to do so

    So, the below applies only for the want but normalisation makes no sense anyway:

    % of developers who are not developing with the language or technology but have expressed interest in developing with it

    I find this interesting: 86% love rust but only 5% are using/have used it (professionally or otherwise). 23% love Perl but only 3% are using it. First they try to charm then with whitespace, then with exclamation and question marks?


    Perl, want: 1.1%, love: 28.6%, dread: 71.4% Rust, want: 14.6%, love: 86.1%, dread: 13.9%

    But after normalising to those who actually have used it are using it (*) (all respondents),


    want: (14.6*5.1)/(1.1*3.1) = 21.8x, love: (86.1*5.1)/(28.6*3.1) = 4.9x, dread: (13.9*5.1)/(71.4*3.1) = 0.32x (=3x the other way)

    (*): Edit: "commonly used programming language", which is not "those who have used it/are using it". In any event some normalisation should have been done at the SO site over those who actually have some experience with the language and it is not due to a whim or media hype. <<< that's what they did.

    Edit2: what the above indicates is that when normalise for the opinions of those who are using the language, the results are more in favour of Rust because more are using it right now.

    bw, bliako

Re: Perl in Stack Overflow 2020 Survey
by perlfan (Vicar) on Jun 02, 2020 at 04:51 UTC
    Better to be feared than loved.

    I'll take it. Welcome to Perl Kwon Do. Break the wrist, walk away.

Re: Perl in Stack Overflow 2020 Survey
by jflopezfernandez (Initiate) on Jun 17, 2020 at 19:44 UTC

    I wonder if Perl's age disproportionately skews the pay data. My thinking is that most Perl developers are mid- to senior-level engineers due to younger developers primarily using languages like Python or ruby. This heteroskedasticity would make using averages (and by definition also variance and standard deviation) ineffective, and require some correction to more accurately determine the true Perl developer pay distribution.

    Most decidedly not a Perl guru
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