Re: How do janitors get fired? (second chance)

[tye]

Due to the clear problems with parts of the process, it was being reviewed (of course). We've decided to review requests from those who missed the original window. To be reinstated, a newly-ex-janitor would need to at least want to be reinstated, have a record of active janitorial work, no record of disregard for janitorial policies, and be willing to commit to actively keeping up with policy discussions and honoring policy decisions.

I also e-mailed jeffa since he may not be visiting PerlMonks in the near future.

[exussum0]

Thank you. I think you did the right thing of taking the exact worded stance you did - if you are a middle man or not. I hope to hear your voice more often when things go astray, regardless what the others think.

People lingering, such as myself in pmdev, is messy. Putting in contracts like the one you stated, even if it affects everyone in the future, gives everyone the understanding that is their future is in their hands.

NB: When making timeout clauses, you may want to stipulate that reasonable, premeditated, communicated absenteeism may be ok depending on the time absent. 'cause you know, people get hit by trucks and what not. :)

Update: Well, jeffa is gone. Congrats.

[graq]

I don't know if this can be of any help, but I'd like to offer my experience of this situation.

I have 'worked' on projects similar to PerlMonks (in that there is a community, there are moderator, janitor and god equivalent positions). These 'higher ranking' positions are by invite only, and mostly thankless - carried out by volunteers.

How absenteeism is handled: Upon invitation it is explained that holding the position means that person must be 'active'. Any up-coming period of in-activity (for whatever reasons) should be brought to the attention of the 'gods'.

How other 'administration of the admin' compares to PerlMonks: firstly is that there is a little more apparent (now I base this mainly on this thread) open-ness as regards to how things work and how they are implemented (within the 'higher rankings'). And secondly open discussions (such as this thread) are discouraged - enforcing the understanding that as thankless as the position is, it is a privilege not a right.

I admire your efforts here. Keep up the good work.

{Edited to correct my English}