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Re^4: Why Perl boolean expression sometimes treated as lvalue?

by Anonymous Monk
on Feb 11, 2013 at 06:45 UTC ( [id://1018101]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: Why Perl boolean expression sometimes treated as lvalue?
in thread Why Perl boolean expression sometimes treated as lvalue?

If so, your message does not help. Please clarify the question if you think I didn't understand it.

Consider that you didn't miss the point -- in what way does your reply constitute an answer or an explanation?

foo( $blah && $foo ); works to alias $foo

$ref = \($blah && $foo); works to reference $foo

( $blah && $foo ) = foo(); is illegal

Where is this documented? Why is it illegal?

Oh, ikegami says it doesn't return a copy (why would it) -- who asked about a copy ?

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Re^5: Why Perl boolean expression sometimes treated as lvalue?
by ikegami (Patriarch) on Feb 11, 2013 at 21:58 UTC

    Oh, ikegami says it doesn't return a copy (why would it) -- who asked about a copy ?

    He asked why the sub changed it, which is the same as asking why a copy wasn't made (given that he knows about argument aliasing). This was my point.

    ( $blah && $foo ) = foo(); is illegal Where is this documented?

    It's not. Nowhere says it say the LHS of an assignment cannot be an arbitrary expression beyond "assignment operators work as in C", but it makes no sense to accept arbitrary expressions. ("abc" = 3;?) Those that are accepted are called "lvalue" expressions. (This isn't mentioned. Patches welcome.)

    That said, things that return lvalues are documented to do so in their respective documentation:

    • The assignment operators return an lvalue;
    • susbtr, vec, pos and keys can return an lvalue; and
    • lvalue subs return an lvalue.

    Why is it illegal?

    Can't say for sure, but it's traditional not too allow much more than a variable on the LHS of assignments. In fact, Perl does allow the similar $x ? $x : $y to be used as an lvalue, and we've all seen the questions asking "why f() ? $x=3 : $y=4; doesn't work?" that result from that decision.

      I forgot my, our and local. local isn't documented to be usable as an lvalue.

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