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Re^2: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?

by schwern (Scribe)
on Apr 09, 2013 at 19:52 UTC ( #1027829=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?
in thread How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?

This is a fantastic example of Attack By Apology. We have all the attributes...

  • Not recognizing that someone was hurt.
  • Using the opportunity to inflict more hurt.
  • Using the opportunity to drive the agenda behind their "joke".
  • No showing of understanding.
  • Treating the incident like a joke.
  • No acceptance of responsibility for the consequences of their action.
  • Attempted derailment.
  • Claiming it's part of diversity to accept their attacks on others.

I'm glad the PerlMonks leadership has gotten involved and asked the author to respond, however they should have read it before they allowed it to be posted. It has given the offender another opportunity to attack.

I do not accept the author's response, it's just another attack. It underlines why the poll is not "just a joke" but is a hurtful reflection of the author's politics and philosophy. It does not belong on the front page of PerlMonks. It has nothing to do with Perl or Perl Wisdom.

I ask the PerlMonks leadership to take further public action.

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Re^3: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 10, 2013 at 12:16 UTC
    Wait a minute - the OP may have made a joke that identified no particular person, or even any particular group, and which, interpreted through a certain lens, could possibly offend some people's sensitivities.

    But the response that started all this was a direct attack on the OP - labelling his/her personal sense of humour as agression, and further attacking all male members of the Perl community with the assertion that they are all, by error of birth, saddled with a privilege they must spend their lives being careful to renounce - deny the very persons they were born as - so important is it that certain other people's sensitivities not be ruffled.

    But that's just fine in other people's eyes?

    'Cause, parsed, the message of many of these posts is essentially that all the men on here need to watch their step, lest the self-appointed values-police get miffed over any perceived lack of due deference to their sensitivities.

    Oh, that's much less offensive than the OP. (not).

Re^3: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 11, 2013 at 12:04 UTC
    Uh, once again, apparently some people see things in posts that simply aren't there. "Attack by Apology"? I see no hint of an apology in the post being referred to. I do not see a shifty attempt at justification, at all. After all the vitriol in this thread, you expected him to talk all warm and fuzzy and reprentant to you? Gosh some people seem to read things that simply aren't there and get upset about them.
Re^3: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 10, 2013 at 09:45 UTC

    I ask the PerlMonks leadership to take further public action.

    Well, you're kinda asking in the wrong place

Re^3: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 10, 2013 at 12:19 UTC
    Wait a minute - the OP may have made a joke that identified no particular person, or even any particular group, and which, interpreted through a certain lens, could possibly offend some people's sensitivities.

    But the response that started all this was a direct attack on the OP - labelling his/her personal sense of humour as agression, and further attacking all male members of the Perl community with the assertion that they are all, by error of birth, saddled with a privilege they must spend their lives being careful to renounce - deny the very persons they were born as - so important is it that certain other people's sensitivities not be ruffled.

    But that's just fine in other people's eyes?

    'Cause, parsed, the message of many of these posts is essentially that all the men on here need to spend their lives denying who they are and watching their step, lest the self-appointed values-police get miffed over any perceived lack of due deference to their sensitivities.

    Oh, that's much less offensive than the OP. (not).

      Honestly this thread is waaaaayy too hilarious.

      The "joke" rests on the general theory that there are, as someone put it "shrill, humourless, agenda-driven flakes" out there who are so steeped in their own culture of victimhood that they cannot let any perceived slight pass without making a federal case out of it.

      This thread goes a long way to confirming the well-founded assumption of that joke. Geez - they have a whole lexicon that has to be explained for ordinary people to understand, and their own wiki dictionary.

      Thank goodness cooler heads have chimed in to counter-balance the whining and not leave the impression that hiring a Perl programmer will mean having your discussions and meetings completely derailed by socio-political zealotry.

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