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Re^2: Perl: Why you no modern web framework?

by eyepopslikeamosquito (Chancellor)
on Jun 23, 2013 at 05:32 UTC ( #1040312=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Perl: Why you no modern web framework?
in thread Perl: Why you no modern web framework?

Please note that, for several hours, the above node contained just this:

Go write one.   :-D
Now, presumably in response to this original unhelpful reply being downvoted, sundialsvc4 subsequently heavily edited it, adding five new paragraphs, but without indicating he had done so.

This is a violation of long-standing Perl monks posting etiquette, as indicated at the Perl Monks FAQ (How do I change/delete my post? and How do I post a question effectively?): Mark the changed/new content with the word "Update."

Is this a new sundialsvc4 tactic, to go with previously seen tactics (touched on at Re^2: Maximum down-votes per monk/day and Maximum down-votes per monk/day) namely:

  • Not providing code to prove his pet theories.
  • Ignoring posts that demonstrate flaws in his technical advice.
  • Re-posting the same flawed technical advice over and over, even after it has been shown to be flawed.
  • Repeatedly posting the same home-spun wisdoms to questions to which they barely relate.
  • Repeatedly opening new discussions on banning anonymous monk and downvotes
  • ... while repeatedly claiming he does not mind being downvoted!
  • Making unfounded accusations that he is being downvoted by sock-puppet accounts and bots (e.g. here, here, here).
  • Not following up on bugs he claims to experience with this site, in particular being repeatedly logged out.
  • Posting at length on topics on which he has limited experience or expertise.
  • Replying to the wrong post, thus losing context.
  • Decorating posts with extravagant typography, stylistic devices, flowery analogies, and unnecessary quotes.

Update: After being criticized for never posting code, sundialsvc4 appears to be experimenting with a new tactic, namely posting extemporaneous code (again again again again again), pseudocode, and untested code and a quasi-Perl sketch with C++ comments. Update: Wow, on Jun 23 2015, sundialsvc4 actually posted some working code!

And still responding to the wrong post I see (and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again). And replying with lots of words but little real content.

Update 2017: And, though I thought it impossible, the annoying typography seems to be getting worse: Re: Anonymous Monk comment(s) on questions.

Update: And ignores corrections, re-posting the same guff over and over. For example "Swiss Army knife" - see Re^2: Why did you become a Perl expert (or programmer)?.

Update 2018: Hmmm, looks like sundial has gone incognito:

Experience points over time. Re: Lots of votes with nowhere to go :-) indicates he had around 13,000 experience points as at May 4 2013. Re^10: RAM: It isn't free . . . indicates he had 16,251 experience points as at Jan 15 2015. April 1 2018 16,412 xp, April 11 2018 16,405 xp, May 1 2018 16,394 xp, May 4 2018 16,379 xp, May 14 2018: 16,361 xp, May 20 2018 16,359 xp, May 22 2018 16,361 xp,

Update 2015: Wow, sundialsvc4 has all ten worst nodes of the month!

Worst Nodes of The Month

# Node Author Rep
1 Re^3: Ternary vs. Sort vs. Max sundialsvc4 -17
2 Re: Refactoring old modules to use roles sundialsvc4 -14
3 Re^4: Disadvantage of not supporting pthreads in perl and how perl overcomes? (cores) sundialsvc4 -13
4 Re: forgoing explicit file close sundialsvc4 -12
5 Re: Ternary vs. Sort vs. Max sundialsvc4 -12
6 Re: Unable to Understand grep and hash use for prime no. sundialsvc4 -12
7 Re: how hard is it to find a job without a degree? sundialsvc4 -11
8 Re: [SOLVED] Dereferencing a pointer returned from Win32::API with unpack 'p' sundialsvc4 -11
9 Re: Reaped nodes no longer visible? sundialsvc4 -11
10 Re: Distributing non-Perl script in a Perl distribution? sundialsvc4 -11
As of Aug 27, 2015 at 01:48 UTC, Next refresh in 20 hours and 30 mins ±15 min

Update 2017: Done it again on his return.

Worst Nodes of The Month

# Node Author Rep
1 Re: Restricting Anonymous Monk to SOPW sundialsvc4 -21
2 Re^2: Sort undef sundialsvc4 -18
3 Re^3: Big thank you to the Perl community. sundialsvc4 -18
4 Re^2: Help me decipher code containing map function sundialsvc4 -18
5 Re: How can I get the four highest valued letters in an array? sundialsvc4 -17
6 Re: Parsing incorrect html sundialsvc4 -15
7 Re: Anonymous Monk comment(s) on questions sundialsvc4 -15
8 Re: Big thank you to the Perl community. sundialsvc4 -14
9 Re: I can upvote a node multiple times! Well... sort of. sundialsvc4 -13
10 Re: How do I make a PSGI program do costly initialisation only once per process, not per thread? sundialsvc4 -13
As of Jun 14, 2017 at 12:36 UTC, Next refresh in 14 hours and 30 mins ±15 min

Worst Nodes of The Month

# Node Author Rep
1 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -24
2 Re^3: Perl Security Testing sundialsvc4 -24
3 Re^5: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -23
4 Re^3: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -23
5 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -23
6 Re^3: use has it's own scope? sundialsvc4 -21
7 Re^2: Fastest way to lookup a point in a set sundialsvc4 -21
8 Re: Which internal DSL are there in Perl? (Domain Specific Languages - Part 1) sundialsvc4 -20
9 Re^4: open and read text file sundialsvc4 -20
10 Re: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -19
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Worst Nodes of The Year

# Node Author Rep
1 Re: Running script only within a specific domain/network sundialsvc4 -28
2 Re^2: Sort undef sundialsvc4 -25
3 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -24
4 Re^3: Perl Security Testing sundialsvc4 -24
5 Re^3: Imagination greater than reality? sundialsvc4 -24
6 Re^5: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -23
7 Re^3: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -23
8 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -23
9 Re^2: Retrieve changes in remote dataset sundialsvc4 -22
10 Re: Is foreach split Optimized? sundialsvc4 -22
11 Re: Restricting Anonymous Monk to SOPW sundialsvc4 -22
12 Re^4: Canonization Without Representation trippledubs -22
13 Re^3: use has it's own scope? sundialsvc4 -21
14 Re^2: Fastest way to lookup a point in a set sundialsvc4 -21
15 Re: Can Perl do anything Java can do? sundialsvc4 -21
16 Re^4: PERL CGI sundialsvc4 -21
17 Re^3: Big thank you to the Perl community. sundialsvc4 -21
18 Re: Which internal DSL are there in Perl? (Domain Specific Languages - Part 1) sundialsvc4 -20
19 Re^4: open and read text file sundialsvc4 -20
20 Re: Help me understand this idiomatic hash from array code sundialsvc4 -20
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Update 2018: Finally he has all twenty worst nodes of the year. I believe he is the only one to ever achieve this rare feat.

Worst Nodes of The Week

# Node Author Rep
1 Re^5: Check multiple lines exist in a record sundialsvc4 -16
2 Re^4: poor quality perl code sundialsvc4 -15
3 Re: Print unicode strings to pdf sundialsvc4 -12
4 Re: Update nodes in XML document sundialsvc4 -12
5 Re: last/next/redo usages sundialsvc4 -12
6 Re: poor quality perl code sundialsvc4 -11
7 Re: Making this script process 56,000 lines 5 times faster sundialsvc4 -11
8 Re: Hash key composition with a comma? sundialsvc4 -11
9 Re^3: Check multiple lines exist in a record sundialsvc4 -10
10 Re^5: how to get a 64bit random number with rand() ? sundialsvc4 -10
As of Mar 27, 2018 at 23:44 UTC, Next refresh in 1 hour and 15 mins ±15 min

Worst Nodes of The Month

# Node Author Rep
1 Re: RFC: Placeholder creation for SQL statements sundialsvc4 -20
2 Re: Unexplained benchmark when using chop vs. chomp (or neither) sundialsvc4 -20
3 Re: Search string from an input file in a different file sundialsvc4 -17
4 Re: last/next/redo usages sundialsvc4 -16
5 Re: Out of Memory when generating large matrix sundialsvc4 -16
6 Re^4: poor quality perl code sundialsvc4 -15
7 Re: Your connection is not secure sundialsvc4 -15
8 Re^4: RFC: Placeholder creation for SQL statements sundialsvc4 -14
9 Re^5: Check multiple lines exist in a record sundialsvc4 -13
10 Re: poor quality perl code sundialsvc4 -11
As of Mar 27, 2018 at 12:21 UTC, Next refresh in 9 hours and 45 mins ±15 min

Worst Nodes of The Year

# Node Author Rep
1 Re: Patience is a Monk Virtue sundialsvc4 -31
2 Re: Running script only within a specific domain/network sundialsvc4 -29
3 Re^2: Sort undef sundialsvc4 -28
4 Re: [Solved]Need to extract a particular block of lines between two patterns sundialsvc4 -27
5 Re: A simple question that can't be asked sundialsvc4 -26
6 Re: DBD::Sqlite queries slow - and gives wrong results sundialsvc4 -25
7 Re: [Solved]Need to extract a particular block of lines between two patterns sundialsvc4 -25
8 Re^3: Do not understand code sundialsvc4 -25
9 Re^3: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -25
10 Re^3: Perl Security Testing sundialsvc4 -25
11 Re^4: PERL CGI sundialsvc4 -25
12 Re^3: Imagination greater than reality? sundialsvc4 -25
13 Re: comparing an ID fom one file to the records in the second file sundialsvc4 -24
14 Re: Do not understand code sundialsvc4 -24
15 Re^5: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -24
16 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -24
17 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -24
18 Re: Is foreach split Optimized? sundialsvc4 -24
19 Re: Restricting Anonymous Monk to SOPW sundialsvc4 -24
20 Re^2: OT: Converting some js to Perl sundialsvc4 -21
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And again, May 22 2018

Worst Nodes of The Day

# Node Author Rep
1 Re^2: Custom log file to alternative to db sundialsvc4 -5
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Worst Nodes of The Week

# Node Author Rep
1 Re^3: Parallel-processing the code sundialsvc4 -14
2 Re^2: GDPR ( Global Data Protection Rights ) sundialsvc4 -13
3 Re^2: Abusing Map sundialsvc4 -10
4 Re: Parallel-processing the code sundialsvc4 -10
5 Re^2: regex for identifying encrypted text sundialsvc4 -10
6 Re^4: GDPR ( Global Data Protection Rights ) sundialsvc4 -9
7 Re^2: GDPR ( Global Data Protection Rights ) sundialsvc4 -8
8 Re: GDPR ( Global Data Protection Rights ) sundialsvc4 -8
9 Re: regex for identifying encrypted text sundialsvc4 -8
10 Re: Parsing two XML at the same time and align them sundialsvc4 -7
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Worst Nodes of The Month

# Node Author Rep
1 Re^2: Other effects of 'use utf8' on script sundialsvc4 -23
2 Re^4: MCE: Slow IPC between child and gather process in parent sundialsvc4 -20
3 Re: Dancer and forking sundialsvc4 -19
4 Re^6: MCE: Slow IPC between child and gather process in parent sundialsvc4 -18
5 Re^3: Other effects of 'use utf8' on script sundialsvc4 -18
6 Re^3: Parallel-processing the code sundialsvc4 -15
7 Re: What does this comment mean (Are DTDs of any use to XML::Parser?) sundialsvc4 -15
8 Re: Multithreading a large file split to multiple files sundialsvc4 -14
9 Re: Is it still worth learning Perl as a first language? sundialsvc4 -14
10 Re: MCE: Slow IPC between child and gather process in parent sundialsvc4 -14
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Worst Nodes of The Year

# Node Author Rep
1 Re: Patience is a Monk Virtue sundialsvc4 -31
2 Re: Running script only within a specific domain/network sundialsvc4 -30
3 Re^2: Sort undef sundialsvc4 -29
4 Re: [Solved]Need to extract a particular block of lines between two patterns sundialsvc4 -27
5 Re: A simple question that can't be asked sundialsvc4 -26
6 Re^3: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -26
7 Re: DBD::Sqlite queries slow - and gives wrong results sundialsvc4 -25
8 Re: [Solved]Need to extract a particular block of lines between two patterns sundialsvc4 -25
9 Re^3: Do not understand code sundialsvc4 -25
10 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -25
11 Re^3: Perl Security Testing sundialsvc4 -25
12 Re^4: PERL CGI sundialsvc4 -25
13 Re^3: Imagination greater than reality? sundialsvc4 -25
14 Re: comparing an ID fom one file to the records in the second file sundialsvc4 -24
15 Re: Do not understand code sundialsvc4 -24
16 Re^5: RFC: pragma pragmatic sundialsvc4 -24
17 Re: perl group by and sort from a csv input file sundialsvc4 -24
18 Re: Is foreach split Optimized? sundialsvc4 -24
19 Re: Restricting Anonymous Monk to SOPW sundialsvc4 -24
20 Re^2: Other effects of 'use utf8' on script sundialsvc4 -23
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  • Comment on Re^2: Perl: Why you no modern web framework?

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Re^3: Perl: Why you no modern web framework?
by space_monk (Chaplain) on Jun 23, 2013 at 06:32 UTC

    You're very picky about sundialsvc4, are you ex-lovers/BFFs or something? :-)

    If you spot any bugs in my solutions, it's because I've deliberately left them in as an exercise for the reader! :-)

      I’m glad that someone else said that.   Geez.   I really do bathe every day . . .

        Maybe its what you bathe in that's the problem... :-P

        If you spot any bugs in my solutions, it's because I've deliberately left them in as an exercise for the reader! :-)
Re^3: Perl: Why you no modern web framework?
by Ralesk (Pilgrim) on Jun 26, 2013 at 12:25 UTC

    While I agree on the criticism regarding this particular postís handling ó I hadnít seen it happen, so Iíll also add, if it indeed happened this way ó I donít think you should be this harsh, in fact, please take your differences to a private conversation or something.

    By all means, both of you are high level monks, both of you must have done something good to earn that. You should know better.

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