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Re: Say, are the Gates busted?

by sundialsvc4 (Abbot)
on Aug 05, 2013 at 12:09 UTC ( #1047897=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Say, are the Gates busted?

Once again today (8/5), the latest content on Gates (from server is dated 8/3, and all other pages are current.   All local caches and routers are known to be reset ... this information is coming down the wire, and it is stale.

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Re^2: Say, are the Gates busted?
by Anonymous Monk on Aug 05, 2013 at 12:41 UTC
Re^2: Say, are the Gates busted?
by sundialsvc4 (Abbot) on Aug 05, 2013 at 17:39 UTC

    Is someone, let alone “cowering behind the veil of Anoymous Monk,” trying intentionally to provoke me?   ... Over something that, reality-check here, could easily be as inconsequential as memcached?   If so, then let this be proof-positive of why I don’t give a damm about “reputation points” or “XP.”   Both of them are utterly useless to me, and this is exactly why.   Something is “being taken personally” here, that is nothing but ones-and-zeros technical. There is a problem here, and I am merely doing the courtesy of calling proper attention to it.

    Here is what I have, so far, observed:

    1. When I visit the URL, just its home-page, there is large-but-not-100% chance that the information presented on this page will be stale.
    2. I am reasonably 100%-certain that this is not a client-side issue ... I know where to look for caches, and have studiously eliminated them.   I see this behavior on multiple computers and from multiple IPs.
    3. I do not see it every time.   I have visited about 4 times today, and twice it was current, twice it was stale.   Right now ... oops! ... I started to say, “it is current,” but on latest-refresh, in a single uninterrupted browser-session, it is now stale.
    4. No other page on the site exhibits this behavior.   (However, of course, no other page is “the home page,” and is therefore less-likely to be cached.)

    I have never before had the experience of, when timely calling the attention of the owners of a web-site to an apparent (and recently-surfaced ...) technical problem on their web-site, been personally castigated nor made fun of ... by anyone.   I have been using this web-site (software) for nigh on six years, so, if I say that I am (recently) observing stale-page behavior on it, may I therefore most cordially request that the bug-report be taken at face value?

    and, if not ...

      Is someone, let alone “cowering behind the veil of Anoymous Monk,” trying intentionally to provoke me?

      Why are you responding to your own node yet again? What will you do if provoked?

      Why is it that every time you have something technical report, you omit the technical details?

      There is a problem here

      Yes, you keep reporting the same thing without any answer from the management and you keep not providing details
      1) you've reported it already, great, now hurry up and wait
      2) stop talking to yourself, and hurry up and wait
      3) stop trolling, you're not important

      During the course of today, I noticed the stale-page problem off and on about three times.   I presume that there is a load-balancer in play here on these “beefy servers,” and I strongly suspect that there is something amiss specifically when serving-up a GET-parameter-free (i.e. “home”) URL on probably-one, but not all, of those servers.   I am only accessing the .org domain.   I have never noticed staleness on any other page, ever.   And at this point, I know it is not client-side.

        During the course of today ....

        And why not report the IP address, or some headers (etag ) ...

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