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Re^2: -Ofun times

by sundialsvc4 (Abbot)
on Apr 14, 2014 at 18:17 UTC ( #1082270=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: -Ofun times
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Pardon me for asking, but... “why do you even give-a-damn whether the code “runs faster,” if nobody on this planet will ever have a pragmatic business reason to submit source-code to your compiler, anyway?”

I think that I am entirely safe to say that this entire project (sic ...) can be summarized as follows:

  1. Let’s invent a New Language, as though nobody on this planet had ever done such a thing before.
  2. Let’s co-opt the tread of a well-established mainstream language and graft our own version++ moniker onto it, then keep “butting to the head of the line” on that language’s already-established Internet forums with our message of “how good it was going to be.”
  3. Having thusly co-opted our “fifteen minutes of fame,” let us repeatedly demonstrate that we actually have no idea what the language ought to consist of, nor of which interpreter (hey!!   let’s hitch a ride on Java!!) ought to run our brainchild.
  4. Let’s just keep “butting our way into the head of the line” on the forums of the existing language upon which we wish to hang our undeserved coat-tails, all the time insisting that our project is, legitimately, The Next Big Thing™ ... in hopes that, after a decade or two, that community will actually begin to believe us.
  5. For lack of anything better to talk about, let’s talk about Optimization.   “Even though you have no pragmatic use for this, it sure is fast!”

Well, that’s just not the way that software engineering works.   Your project failed.   It is dead.   It was dead half a decade ago.   Please, bury the dammed thing and get lost.

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Re^3: -Ofun times
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 14, 2014 at 23:45 UTC
    I think I am entirely safe to say that each point in your summary could equally apply to most of your own posts on here.
Re^3: -Ofun times
by Laurent_R (Canon) on Apr 17, 2014 at 00:05 UTC
    Hi sundialsvc4, I am glad that I had still one vote available today to be able to down vote your post, which I just did (and I do that extremely rarely, I don't think that I have casted negative votes more than half a dozen times in the last 18 or 19 months that I have been in the Monastery). Nothing personal against you, but that enabled me to see that I am far from being the only one: a -14 vote record (as of now) for your post is a clear sign that many monks here think that your post is an irrelevant, disdainful and intolerant caricature of reality (and BTW, for now, your post gets the title of the worst node of the week and the second worst node of the month, and I think your post deserves it). My hopes of seeing Perl 6 becoming mature and production-ready one day have seriously shrunk in the last years, and I am sad about that, but please show at least some respect for people who are still trying to give it birth, even if you think, rightly or wrongly, they are doing it the wrong way.

    Your "get lost" concluding sentence is the straw that broke the camel's back and convinced me to down vote your post, I might not have done it but for these two words. And remember, even if it might eventually fail, that Perl 6 was a project of the Perl community, including people like Larry, Damian, Tom and Nat among others (as far as I remember), nothing to do with an "evil" cuckoo that would try to rob another bird's nest.

Re^3: -Ofun times
by mr_mischief (Monsignor) on Apr 15, 2014 at 17:55 UTC

    You keep saying "you" and "your" as if I'm writing this code. I'm not. What I said is that I see value in the compiler being able to optimize code it compiles before version 1.0 comes out.

    I will not, because we have a simple disagreement on a single point, "get lost". It is frankly not only unproductive but also infantile for you to suggest it.

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