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Re^2: Perl 6 to be renamed? (updated)

by haukex (Chancellor)
on Aug 12, 2019 at 18:58 UTC ( #11104344=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Perl 6 to be renamed?
in thread Perl 6 to be renamed?

I think there is a ticket somewhere in some bug tracker on renaming Perl 6, but I can't find it at the moment.

It's here: "Perl" in the name "Perl 6" is confusing and irritating. Note the comment further down by TheDamian (GitHub user "thoughtstream") regarding the "Raku" name. And just today I ran across a post somewhere (I can't find it right now) arguing in favor of keeping the Perl 6 name. So I think basically it's still in discussion.

Of course, the language might just end up being named "Whatever" ;-)

Update: liz starts talking about it at this point in the talk.

Update 2: The discussion is also in this pull request.

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Re^3: Perl 6 to be renamed?
by QM (Parson) on Aug 13, 2019 at 10:23 UTC
    Here's my fav reason to rename it, stolen from TheDamian:
    It has a more subtle association with the Perl community’s signature camelids: “raku-da” is Japanese for “camel”.

    -QM
    --
    Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of

Re^3: Perl 6 to be renamed?
by jdporter (Canon) on Aug 21, 2019 at 16:06 UTC

    Again, because I can't comment in the discussion itself...

    Also, Camelia, with the “C” and the “ML” in the name could confuse someone into thinking that’s its a language of the ML family like Ocaml.

    Um... Isn't it? ;-)

      I personally believe that all the concern (expressed by some of the folks in that discussion) about a rename taking the new language away from Perl-the-philosophy-ecosystem-community are completely unfounded, even vapid. Everyone knows that Oberon is a language in the Modula family. And when Oak was renamed to Java it sure didn't hurt anything. The new language needs its own name. Include "perl" in it somehow if absolutely necessary -- something stupid like "neoperl" or whatever.

Re^3: Perl 6 to be renamed?
by Jenda (Abbot) on Aug 18, 2019 at 21:51 UTC

    Frankly, a language that only about fifty (and here I'm most likely being too nice) people care about may be called anything at all. It doesn't matter at all.

    Jenda
    1984 was supposed to be a warning,
    not a manual!

      Can you show us on this doll where Perl6 touched you?

      `\\||//` '\/`""`\/ .-/ o 0 \-. \_-==-_/ ____)__(____ =|--\ \/ /--|= ='--/__ __\--'= |____| /~~~~\ / \ <_/\__/\_> _/ / \ \_ (___/ \___)

        So far 12 or maybe 13 people upvoting this? Looks consistent with what I wrote.

        I do believe that the number of people that care about the name of this failed experiment at adding every single programming concept anyone ever made up into a language loosely based on Perl is at least two magnitudes lower than the number of people that just don't want it called Perl. Just rename the thing already, thousands of people had been yelling at the ten or so Perl6 developers to do that for a decade and half.

        Jenda
        1984 was supposed to be a warning,
        not a manual!

        cool&sureal!

        "...where Perl6 touched you"

        Probably at the ugliest part of his body: 🍆 👃

        Who knows. But is he really so wrong?

        «The Crux of the Biscuit is the Apostrophe»

        perl -MCrypt::CBC -E 'say Crypt::CBC->new(-key=>'kgb',-cipher=>"Blowfish")->decrypt_hex($ENV{KARL});'Help

        There is no "Perl6". Read the news.


        The way forward always starts with a minimal test.
        troll

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