I personally believe that all the concern (expressed by some of the folks in that discussion) about a rename taking the new language away from Perl-the-philosophy-ecosystem-community are completely unfounded, even vapid. Everyone knows that Oberon is a language in the Modula family. And when Oak was renamed to Java it sure didn't hurt anything. The new language needs its own name. Include "perl" in it somehow if absolutely necessary -- something stupid like "neoperl" or whatever.