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Re^2: Amicable divorce (The Camel Paradox)

by ribasushi (Pilgrim)
on Jul 06, 2020 at 10:02 UTC ( #11118960=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Amicable divorce (The Camel Paradox)
in thread Amicable divorce

> You are advocating a clean break from backwards compatibility?

I am definitely not advocating this. Some, however, do. All your questions are excellent, and you should ask them in the corresponding threads.

What I am interested in is that /usr/bin/perl doesn't get to go on a risky roadtrip along with Perl.

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Re^3: Amicable divorce (The Camel Paradox)
by LanX (Cardinal) on Jul 06, 2020 at 10:14 UTC
    > What I am interested in is that /usr/bin/perl doesn't get to go on a risky roadtrip along with Perl.

    What does that mean? Are you saying that Linux distributions might abandon system Perl?

    > you should ask them in the corresponding threads

    I can't cope with P5P.

    It reminds me about the story (myth?) how the Bolsheviks dominated the Russian parliament after revolution, just by delaying decisions till the majority was too tired to attend discussions.

    Instead of redesigning the language we should rather start by redesigning the politics.

    And design decisions should be based on proof of concepts, not spectacular presentations and random commit bits.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      It reminds me about the story (myth?) how the Bolsheviks dominated the Russian parliament after revolution, just by delaying decisions till the majority was too tired to attend discussions.

      FWIW, I heard this same approximate story from a political science professor at my university in 1987. He also told us that the USSR was going to collapse at any time and it was an open secret at the diplomatic level. When history proved him right, I wished Id listened more closely to everything he said in class. :P

      Linux distributions might abandon system Perl?
      I suspect this is not a rhetorical question. The answer is: not only "might": this is already happening at dizzying speed. The current promise to gentrify your oneliners at all costs does not help reverse that trend.
        > promise to gentrify your oneliners at all costs

        Jesus! OO

        Perl started as bash on steroids, that's our home base.

        Cutting a tree's roots because you live up in the crown is not the cleverest idea. That's where the seed can survive for decades.

        Guys, just create master pragmas and alias different bin/p_whatever to it and everybody is happy.

        Creating a bad copy of python will hardly work, that's like cutting down the hump of a Camel to make it race better against a horse.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        The current promise to gentrify your oneliners at all costs...

        ... is a very dishonest reading of that message, one which ignores the rest of the thread which pushes back against it.

        Which is it? Is it already happening at dizzying speed, or is this just a discussion where one person has an idea and other people disagree?

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