Re^7: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture)

It's really bothering me that key players of the community are resorting to more and more vitriol in the discussion. (including <update: names deleted> to name a few)

Why isn't it possible to create a process where

interest groups are identified
a common strategy is outlined
RFCs are formulated with a test suite
a quality management looks over proof of concept and the implementation

I always thought that my lack of understanding of P5P discussions is due to my limited knowledge.

But I'm certain now that there is a serious and frustrating communication problem which needs to be resolved politically.

And "politically" means a discussion and decision process which is transparent, reliable and efficient.

Probably with mediators channeling the diplomacy and questioning the terminology.

Update

I'm totally pro dispute just in a scientific way, i.e sober and non emotional.

Cheers Rolf
_{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)

Wikisyntax for the Monastery}

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Re^8: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by ribasushi (Pilgrim) on Jul 13, 2020 at 07:17 UTC
Here's your discussion: https://github.com/Perl/perl5/wiki/SC-Notes-2020-07-12 You can still help since the group "Would benefit from volunteer developers (who are subscribed to the vision)", as long as you don't forget to "actively support the leadership". #CamelJugend	[reply]
Re^9: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by LanX (Saint) on Jul 13, 2020 at 10:40 UTC
Oh great Godwin's law! :) Look I still think (have the illusion) that it's possible to express differing opinions and still stay friends. > leadership I'm for leadership as long as the process stays transparent and permeable. Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery}	[reply]
Re^10: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by ribasushi (Pilgrim) on Jul 13, 2020 at 11:03 UTC
> Oh great Godwin's law! :) If it is good enough for Mike Godwin, it is good enough for me. > I'm for leadership as long as ... Sure thing. I mean with this group the release train will run on time, that is for sure ;)	[reply]
Re^11: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Jul 13, 2020 at 12:45 UTC
Re^11: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by LanX (Saint) on Jul 13, 2020 at 12:29 UTC
Re^12: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by ribasushi (Pilgrim) on Jul 14, 2020 at 15:17 UTC
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Re^8: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by Anonymous Monk on Jul 13, 2020 at 08:51 UTC
Please note that Liz and Wendy are not part of this discussion in any way whatsoever. I did reply the other day to a post by chromatic, indicating that parsing in Raku is slow, rather then the whole of Raku. That's it. Please go figure out your shit by yourselves. The elephant in the room "responsible" for all the chaos, has left the room. Liz	[reply]
Re^9: Amicable divorce (Discussion culture) by LanX (Saint) on Jul 13, 2020 at 09:52 UTC
I wasn't referring to this discussion. I was lamenting vitriol in the community. All the best - Rolf	[reply]
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