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Re: [OT] gay marriage controversy (How the heck did we get here?)

by tobyink (Canon)
on Oct 16, 2020 at 06:38 UTC ( [id://11122891]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to [OT] gay marriage controversy (How the heck did we get here?)
in thread When is it time to stop posting to CPAN?

Honestly I think the state should get out of the marriage entirely. No "civil unions" either. Marriage can be an entirely private business. If a church wants to marry two people or not, then let them. If a pizzeria wants to marry two people, then let them. Why should the state even care?

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Re^2: [OT] gay marriage controversy (How the heck did we get here?)
by LanX (Saint) on Oct 16, 2020 at 07:36 UTC
    Marriage is a contract changing your legal status.

    I don't want a pizzeria to decide who is raising my kids, has the right to switch off my respirator and inherits my Perl books ...

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      Yet contract law in general requires very little government oversight.

      When I sign a contract with a business, there's no government registrar required to witness it, or keep an official record of it. Unless one of us breaks the contract and it needs to go to court, why is government oversight of contracts useful?

        > why is government oversight of contracts useful?

        Far reaching legal implications like tax laws, immigration laws, ... etc

        > there's no government registrar required to witness it,

        Who else should do the registration? Facebook?

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        ... why is government oversight of contracts useful?

        Why is government useful? 😫💥⌨️🤯🤦😊🃏😊

        A throwaway analogy is the best way learn about the history and politics of our oldest institutions :) not sarcasm at all 👊🥊

      Then you should have won the pizza wars 😌🐐
Re^2: [OT] gay marriage controversy (How the heck did we get here?)
by jcb (Parson) on Oct 17, 2020 at 03:49 UTC
    Why should the state even care?

    It seems to me that the original purpose of marriage was to support forming families and raising children who will be the next generation of society. The state, being (theoretically) the collective will of The People in a supposedly representative system, has a legitimate interest in the future of the society. This suggests that perhaps the notion of "civil union" should be further unbundled, but the first step is still getting the state out of the marriage business.

      but the first step is still getting the state out of the marriage business.

      sure *sarcasm* because the shortest distance between 2 points of equality is a new sheet 💩

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