Re^4: XS module in ithreads Perl much slower in threads::join after adding SvOBJECT

Hi, etj

There is awesomeness with PDL 2.076 in better utilization of the L1/L2/L3 cache. That is something to be proud of and a moment of celebration. Unfortunately, 2.076 introduces an anomaly. IMHO try storing the $$.$tid somewhere. For PDL to be thread-safety friendly, it is important for cleanup to occur by the originating thread which instantiated the object.

I will update the MCE demonstrations with a user_begin block to work around the issue. This I can do safely, because the piddles are instantiated by the main thread; i.e. $$.tid == $$.0

Update: Looking at the code, MCE workers also form piddles for the Strassen demonstrations. So I cannot do this unless I save/check the thread ID.

user_begin => sub {
    # PDL 2.076 introduced a regression causing all threads to perform
    # piddle destruction. PDL cleanup should occur once, preferably by
    # the thread which instantiated the object.
    no warnings;
    sub PDL::DESTROY { 0; }
},
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Not able to do the above, I want to mention that the strassen_07_t.pl example works fine as is in the repo by removing the line introduced in PDL 2.076.

SvOBJECT_off((SV *)it->sv);
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Re^5: XS module in ithreads Perl much slower in threads::join after adding SvOBJECT_off by marioroy (Prior) on Mar 01, 2022 at 08:39 UTC
I searched the web and came across this page where the developer tries SvOBJECT_off. Stas states, "So we get all kind of problems when automatically dereferencing it." `SvOK_off(sv); SvIVX(sv) = 0; SvOBJECT_off(sv);` [download] It is warming to the heart (because of the frustrations at times folks hoping and/or making things threads-safe) to read, "A working solution is needed to make mp2 API perl-ithreads-safe as it's not at the moment, ...". Stas settled with the following instead. `SV sv = SvRV(obj); if (sv) { / detach from the C struct and invalidate / mg_free(sv); / remove any magic / SvFLAGS(sv) = 0; / invalidate the sv / }` [download] I tried replacing SvOBJECT_off with mg_free in PDL 2.076. `/ Clear the sv field so that there will be no dangling ptrs / if (it->sv) { // SvOBJECT_off((SV )it->sv); /* problematic, issue #385 / mg_free(it->sv); / remove any magic instead */ sv_setiv(it->sv,0x4242); it->sv = NULL; }` [download] etj, will that work? The Strassen demonstrations work fine and see no adverse effects during global destruction.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^6: XS module in ithreads Perl much slower in threads::join after adding SvOBJECT_off by etj (Deacon) on Mar 01, 2022 at 21:30 UTC
I have implemented this on the current git master branch, and intend to release it very soon, after I have made a couple more tweaks to the demos system which has finally got overhauled. Thanks for the amazing research!	[reply]
Re^7: XS module in ithreads Perl much slower in threads::join after adding SvOBJECT_off by marioroy (Prior) on Mar 02, 2022 at 22:14 UTC
Thank you, for the enlightenment on using PDL::LinearAlgebra::Real. I updated the examples. Passing a flag to the script will attempt to load PDL::LinearAlgebra::Real. If available, PDL::LinearAlgebra::Real computes faster via LAPACK/OpenBLAS. Use PDL 2.077 or later for best results. Check also, OpenMP-enabled i.e. pkg-config --variable=openblas_config openblas \| grep -c USE_OPENMP perl matmult_base.pl 4096 # 54.685s built-in matrix multiply perl matmult_base.pl 4096 1 # 6.706s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 1 thread perl matmult_base.pl 4096 4 # 1.727s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 4 threads perl matmult_mce_d.pl 4096 4 # 12.468s built-in matrix multiply perl matmult_mce_d.pl 4096 4 1 # 1.915s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 4 threads perl matmult_mce_f.pl 4096 4 # 11.950s built-in matrix multiply perl matmult_mce_f.pl 4096 4 1 # 1.836s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 4 threads perl matmult_mce_t.pl 4096 4 # 12.245s built-in matrix multiply perl matmult_mce_t.pl 4096 4 1 # 1.856s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 4 threads perl matmult_simd.pl 4096 4 # 16.136s built-in matrix multiply perl matmult_simd.pl 4096 4 1 # 1.763s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 4 threads perl strassen_07_f.pl 4096 # 3.516s built-in matrix multiply perl strassen_07_f.pl 4096 1 # 1.915s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 7 threads perl strassen_07_t.pl 4096 # 3.658s built-in matrix multiply perl strassen_07_t.pl 4096 1 # 2.072s LAPACK/OpenBLAS 7 threads Look at matmult_base.pl go :) This is possible with OpenMP-enabled LAPACK/OpenBLAS libs.	[reply]


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