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Promoting old (2009) node: "I want more monkquips"

by kcott (Archbishop)
on Apr 30, 2023 at 18:40 UTC ( [id://11151919]=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Old (2009) node is: "I want more monkquips".

Extract from CB:

[kcott]CB quip: "and the sunlight beams..." (white text on red bg). I don't recall ever seeing that one. Is someone actively adding quips?
[marto]Hi Ken, there was a thread some time ago where people could post quips to be considered for incusions. I think some of the gods or sitedocclan add things from time to time
[kcott]Thanks, marto. SuperSearch: "I want more monkquips". ...

Simply adding a new PerlMonks Discussion node, to promote an older PerlMonks Discussion node, has the same problem in that it too will fall into disuse: "I want more monkquips" had various responses throughout 2009; then one in each of 2010, 2011 & 2015.

Accordingly, I'm throwing out the idea for discussion of having a Quip Quest. I envisage this would be set up similar to the poll idea quest YYYY, in the Quest category (which appears at the top of the The Monastery Gates).

A How do I create a Quip? page would have comparable information to the How do I create a Poll? page. Here's a non-exhaustive list:

  • Maximun length of quip.
  • Intended quip target location: XP Nodelet, Chatterbox, ...
  • Optional background & foreground colours. I would stipulate that this option requires both colours and that they be contrasting (to avoid issues with Display Settings custom colours).
  • Links to related threads; e.g.

The suggested quip(s) should perhaps be within <spoiler>...</spoiler> tags — I'm not sure about this requirement.

Looking forward to your thoughts on this.

— Ken

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Re: Promoting old (2009) node: "I want more monkquips"
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on May 01, 2023 at 01:18 UTC

    Excellent suggestion Ken!

    I'd personally like to see more quips derived from famous historic quotes, especially early ones from Larry, merlyn et al (e.g see here) ... though the current length limitations of PM quips may prove challenging to work around. Does anyone know the current PM quip length limit?

Re: Promoting old (2009) node: "I want more monkquips"
by erzuuli (Cannon) on May 01, 2023 at 14:49 UTC

      ++ Thanks for implementing that so quickly.

      Please also consider my CSS suggestions.

      — Ken

Re: Promoting old (2009) node: "I want more monkquips"
by 1nickt (Canon) on May 01, 2023 at 10:31 UTC

    I like the quips and I support this idea, but I find the white text on red background jarring, and kindly request that it be retired.


    The way forward always starts with a minimal test.

      People will have differing views on this. I personally don't mind the "white on red"; however, plain red text (on my customised dark-grey background) looked jarring to me and was difficult to read.

      I've just checked the source code for a quip I got. It looked like this:

      <td class="nodelet_body"> ... <br> You gained 1 experience point. Didn't see that coming did ya? ... </td>

      I think it would be good if the quip was isolated in its own <span>, with a class attribute indicating the type of quip. I'll suggest the following class attribute values:

      • class="quip-xp" — for XP Nodelet quip.
      • class="quip-cb" — for Chatterbox quip.
      • class="quip-mb" — for Monkbar quip.

      Doing this will allow custom colours for quips via CSS in Display Settings. And, of course, all sorts of other decorations could be applied.

      As an example, the source code (above) would become:

      <td class="nodelet_body"> ... <br> You gained 1 experience point. <span class="quip-xp">Didn't see that c +oming did ya?</span> ... </td>

      CSS hints for anyone who needs them:

      If you want all quips to look the same, you can use CSS like this:

      span[class^="quip-"] { /* wanted properties & values here */ }

      If you want (some of) them to look different, add separate rules; something like this:

      .quip-xp, .quip-cb { /* wanted properties & values here */ } .quip-mb { /* wanted properties & values here */ }

      — Ken

      As someone who seems to have trained their eyes that this sort of thing is indicative or an error, seconded :)

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