Re^6: Larger profile pic than 80KB?

[kcott]

That third emoji is very new. I just see (rough ASCII-art rendition):

+---+
|01F|
|ADA|
+---+

It's U+01FADA GINGER ROOT and part of the Unicode v15.0 release (the latest is v15.1). I have the latest Firefox running on the latest Win10 (I just updated everything) so I'm guessing I simply don't have an appropriate font. I imagine others are in the same boat.

There are minimal details in the Unicode PDF Code Chart "Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A - Range: 1FA70-1FAFF".

Perl can provide information on all properties with:

$ perl -E '
    use Unicode::UCD "charprops_all";
    use Data::Dump;
    dd charprops_all("U+01FADA");
'

Perl v5.38.0 added support for Unicode v15.0 (see "perl5380delta: Unicode 15.0 is supported"). Those who haven't upgraded to v5.38.0 yet, won't be able to use the code above. Here's a few selected lines of the output:

{
  Age                          => "V15_0",
  ...
  Block                        => "Symbols_And_Pictographs_Extended_A"
+,
  ...
  Emoji_Presentation           => "Yes",
  ...
  Name                         => "GINGER ROOT",
  ...
}

The full output takes up a couple of screenfuls on my 27" monitor. I've put it in the spoiler for anyone interested.

<Reveal this spoiler or all in this thread>

[LanX]

For me it's the first emoji for LAN which doesn't display.

Anyway, if we really want to reinvent Chinese with emoji hieroglyphs, than I'd rather go for 🛹🏘️ or 🫁

"Long" explanation

My rather long (sic) family name Langsdorf translates to long-s-village (sic-sic) or more directly "long-s-thorp"

German tends to introduce "s" as a connector in compound words (compare Saint PeterSburg°).

Hence the first half ends on "GS" which is almost homophone to "X", and capital X was stylish in the age of LaTeX and Linux and Unix.

So LanX is pronounced like "lungs" with an "angry voice" aka standard German accent.

°) Tsar Peter (the Great) wanted to attach his empire closer to Europe, so he chose a German name for his new capital. Most cities on the Baltic sea where heavily Hanseatic anyway. The Russian version is "Sankt-Peterburg" (Санкт-Петербургъ) without s.

[kcott]

It's interesting what is and isn't displayed across applications. Here's the two lots of characters:

$ perl -E '
    use utf8;
    use Unicode::UCD "charinfo";
    for my $code_point (map ord, qw{🖧 ❎ 🫚 🌰 🍎 😋 🎄 🛹 🏘️ 🫁}) {
        say "U+", sprintf("%X\t", $code_point),
            charinfo($code_point)->{name};
    }
'
U+1F5A7 THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS
U+274E  NEGATIVE SQUARED CROSS MARK
U+1FADA GINGER ROOT
U+1F330 CHESTNUT
U+1F34E RED APPLE
U+1F60B FACE SAVOURING DELICIOUS FOOD
U+1F384 CHRISTMAS TREE
U+1F6F9 SKATEBOARD
U+1F3D8 HOUSE BUILDINGS
U+1FAC1 LUNGS

Update: A missing space between GINGER ROOT and CHESTNUT in the for list resulted in CHESTNUT not appearing in the output. I've fixed this.

I said characters, instead of emoji, because the one you can't see isn't an emoji. Also, as it was released with Unicode v7.0, I'm a little surprised you don't have a font to render it.

$ perl -E '
    use Unicode::UCD "charprop";
    say "$_:\t", charprop("U+1F5A7", $_) for qw{Age Name Emoji};
'
Age:    V7_0
Name:   THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS
Emoji:  No

I understand how THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS, as a LAN, fits with your username. You've explained about LUNGS. I'm baffled by SKATEBOARD and HOUSE BUILDINGS.

All of those characters (except GINGER ROOT, as described above) are rendered for me by Firefox.

The characters GINGER ROOT and LUNGS are not rendered in my Cygwin CLI; they appear as a question mark inside a square. Perl (I'm using v5.39.3) obviously understands both. When I copy-paste that code into this response, LUNGS is rendered correctly.

Cygwin was also updated to the latest; at the same time that I updated Firefox, Thunderbird and Win10 earlier today. I would have thought that it could access the same fonts as the others.

As I said, interesting how different applications deal with some of these characters.

[eyepopslikeamosquito]

All of those characters (except GINGER ROOT, as described above) are rendered for me by Firefox. The characters GINGER ROOT and LUNGS are not rendered in my Cygwin CLI; they appear as a question mark inside a square.

Thanks kcott for motivating me to learn a bit more about this topic.

To take Perl and the Web Browser out of the equation, and just test basic platform support, I ran the following simple test on both my Windows 11 laptop and its embedded WSL Ubuntu Linux 22.04.

On Ubuntu, running the following t1.bash script at the shell command prompt:

#!/usr/bin/bash
echo -e '\U1F5A7'     # THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS
echo -e '\U274E'      # NEGATIVE SQUARED CROSS MARK
echo -e '\U1FADA'     # GINGER ROOT
echo -e '\U1F330'     # CHESTNUT
echo -e '\U1F34E'     # RED APPLE
echo -e '\U1F60B'     # FACE SAVOURING DELICIOUS FOOD
echo -e '\U1F384'     # CHRISTMAS TREE
echo -e '\U1F6F9'     # SKATEBOARD
echo -e '\U1F3D8'     # HOUSE BUILDINGS
echo -e '\U1FAC1'     # LUNGS

resulted in every one of the gang of ten symbols displayed correctly in the shell window.

On Windows 11, running the following PowerShell commands:

[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1F5A7)    # THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x274E)     # NEGATIVE SQUARED CROSS MARK
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1FADA)    # GINGER ROOT
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1F330)    # CHESTNUT
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1F34E)    # RED APPLE
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1F60B)    # FACE SAVOURING DELICIOUS FOOD
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1F384)    # CHRISTMAS TREE
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1F6F9)    # SKATEBOARD
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1F3D8)    # HOUSE BUILDINGS
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1FAC1)    # LUNGS

also resulted in every one of the gang of ten symbols displayed correctly in the Powershell window.

The characters GINGER ROOT and LUNGS are not rendered in my Cygwin CLI

I'm not running Cygwin. However, if you open a Powershell window on your Windows 10 box and type these two commands:

[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1FADA)    # GINGER ROOT
[char]::ConvertFromUtf32(0x1FAC1)    # LUNGS

it would be interesting to see if these two emojis are rendered correctly.

[LanX]

> I'm baffled by SKATEBOARD and HOUSE BUILDINGS.

Longboard and village.

If I type words in my mobile 📲 possible pictograms are offered, I can also find them in an emoji dialog by typing names.

Long... narrows down to 💇💇‍♀️💇‍♂️🪘🛹

Village ... shows nothing yet

But following the Chinese logic that multiple trees 木 symbolize a forest 林, 森 I chose three houses for a village.