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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by kcott (Archbishop) on Nov 17, 2023 at 17:13 UTC
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G'day 👁️🍾👍🦟,
++ More emoji fun!
It's after 4am here, so just a few comments for now (then sleepy-time).
I may spend a bit more time on this later in the weekend.
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The obvious absence from the table is your own: 👁️🍾👍🦟
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I wasn't a huge fan of this, but you said "I really like it",
so for kcott: 👌🏻🛏️🫖
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For merlyn, I would have picked: 🧙🏼 U+1F9D9 MAGE
(using 🏼 U+1F3FC EMOJI MODIFIER FITZPATRICK TYPE-3
skin tone matched against his picture on his home node).
Segoe UI Emoji on Win10 and Win11
We had various discussions about this in "Larger profile pic than 80KB?" and "Perl Secret Operator Emojis".
I've added the following CSS to the top of On-Site CSS Markup: in Display Settings:
body * {
font-family: "Verdana", "Twemoji Mozilla", sans-serif;
}
pre, tt, textarea {
font-family: "Consolas", "Twemoji Mozilla", monospace;
}
I suspect this will only work with Firefox.
It has the following effects:
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Where there are no emoji characters, the page renders exactly as before (as far as I can tell through visual inspection).
It's possible it may need a few tweaks;
for example, before starting to compose this reply, I didn't realise I needed to include textarea.
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The newer ZWJ sequences, such as in "Re: Perl Secret Operator Emojis", now appear as a single glyph.
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Flag emoji glyphs continue to render as a flag;
not the two separate REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER [A-Z] you reported seeing.
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Emoji from Unicode 15.0 still render as a codepoint in a box, as in "Re^6: Larger profile pic than 80KB?".
That affected U+01FADA GINGER ROOT there;
your U+01FABC JELLYFISH in the table in your OP is similarly affected.
See Unicode PDF code chart
"Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A (Range: 1FA70-1FAFF)"
which has 15.0 emoji highlighted in yellow.
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As Segoe UI Emoji and Twemoji Mozilla are different fonts,
there will obviously be differences between individual glyphs (some minor, some major);
you may not like it for this reason (a matter of personal choice).
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by 1nickt (Canon) on Nov 18, 2023 at 12:21 UTC
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I'll play ... how about 1️⃣🎅🏼☕ ?
The way forward always starts with a minimal test.
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$ uparse 1️⃣🎅🏼☕
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String: '1️⃣🎅🏼☕'
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1 U+31 DIGIT ONE
U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
U+20E3 COMBINING ENCLOSING KEYCAP
🎅 U+1F385 FATHER CHRISTMAS
🏼 U+1F3FC EMOJI MODIFIER FITZPATRICK TYPE-3
☕ U+2615 HOT BEVERAGE
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Good one!
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Nice.
For the letter T, an alternative to U+2615 HOT BEVERAGE is U+1FAD6 TEAPOT,
as used by kcott here (which I liked a lot more than he did :-).
Update: kcott's inventive emoji (which I quite like) is: 👌🏻🛏️🫖
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Nov 20, 2023 at 01:12 UTC
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A few more that caught my eye:
See also: Re^2: TPRC Call for Papers is open! (Ovid emoji)
I attended a Perl course by jarich many moons 🌙 ago.
She's a great teacher and a lovely person who enjoys raising chickens 🐔 in her backyard (like harangzsolt33 and Bod :).
Output using kcott's uparse tool
🐉 U+1F409 DRAGON
🪰 U+1FAB0 FLY
🕶 U+1F576 DARK SUNGLASSES
🦉 U+1F989 OWL
🦉 U+1F989 OWL
🏞 U+1F3DE NATIONAL PARK
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
🫡 U+1FAE1 SALUTING FACE
💰 U+1F4B0 MONEY BAG
🐻 U+1F43B BEAR FACE
🌈 U+1F308 RAINBOW
Updated. Added: emojis for jo37 and chromatic; link to Ovid emojis; output using kcott's uparse tool.
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and enjoys raising chickens in her backyard
We used to keep chickens in the garden...perhaps there is a common theme between Perl and chickens...or maybe not, as Joolz, my partner, had the chickens before we met. We'd probably still have them if she hadn't left the coop door open the night Mr Fox came visiting...
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🐔☺️🦊🤤🐔😱🦊😈🐔🪶🦴🦊😋
Technical:
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Joolz, my partner, had the chickens before we met.
We'd probably still have them if she hadn't left the coop door open the night Mr Fox came visiting...
I imagine you rank behind Joolz in your household's pecking order
... and that Joolz was out on that fateful night, attending a hen party.
Bod, you're no spring chicken, but why didn't you chase the fox away? ...
would have been a feather in your cap ... were you outfoxed or too chicken?
See also (update) : Chickens References :-)
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names (Discipulus and SpaceCowboy and LanX)
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Nov 23, 2023 at 06:44 UTC
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A couple of suggestions mysteriously appeared in my Chatterbox ...
thought I better post them as a reply, with variations, so they won't get lost. :)
Discipulus
For the inimitable Discipulus:
| Emoji | Notes |
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| 💿➕ | Optical disc and plus sign (suggested by LanX I'm told) |
| 💿ⅈ➕ | ... I tried an imaginary number i joiner |
| 📀ⅈ⁺ | ... and an alternative rendering |
| 👨🏽🎓🏛️ | Discipulus likes this one (man student and classical building) |
SpaceCowboy
After stumbling on an old node by SpaceCowboy it looked like a fun one to emojify:
| Emoji | Notes |
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| 🌌🐄👦 | Simple version |
| 🚀👨🚀🤠 | Alternative version |
LanX
From Re^5: Larger profile pic than 80KB?:
Improvements welcome.
Update: Output using kcott's latest uparse tool
~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 💿➕
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String: '💿➕'
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💿 U+1F4BF OPTICAL DISC
➕ U+2795 HEAVY PLUS SIGN
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 💿ⅈ➕
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String: '💿ⅈ➕'
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💿 U+1F4BF OPTICAL DISC
ⅈ U+2148 DOUBLE-STRUCK ITALIC SMALL I
➕ U+2795 HEAVY PLUS SIGN
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 📀ⅈ⁺
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String: '📀ⅈ⁺'
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📀 U+1F4C0 DVD
ⅈ U+2148 DOUBLE-STRUCK ITALIC SMALL I
⁺ U+207A SUPERSCRIPT PLUS SIGN
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 👨🏽🎓🏛️
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String: '👨🏽🎓🏛️'
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👨 U+1F468 MAN
🏽 U+1F3FD EMOJI MODIFIER FITZPATRICK TYPE-4
U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER
🎓 U+1F393 GRADUATION CAP
🏛 U+1F3DB CLASSICAL BUILDING
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 🌌🐄👦
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String: '🌌🐄👦'
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🌌 U+1F30C MILKY WAY
🐄 U+1F404 COW
👦 U+1F466 BOY
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 🚀👨🚀🤠
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String: '🚀👨🚀🤠'
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🚀 U+1F680 ROCKET
👨 U+1F468 MAN
U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER
🚀 U+1F680 ROCKET
🤠 U+1F920 FACE WITH COWBOY HAT
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 🖧❎🫚🌰🍎😋🎄
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String: '🖧❎🫚🌰🍎😋🎄'
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🖧 U+1F5A7 THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS
❎ U+274E NEGATIVE SQUARED CROSS MARK
🫚 U+1FADA GINGER ROOT
🌰 U+1F330 CHESTNUT
🍎 U+1F34E RED APPLE
😋 U+1F60B FACE SAVOURING DELICIOUS FOOD
🎄 U+1F384 CHRISTMAS TREE
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Added later : LanX
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> suggested by LanX I'm told
Yes, I did that sometimes in the CB. :)
I think while trying to develop a new hieroglyphic system, it's worth pointing to the History_of_the_alphabet :)
Semitic people in the Levant used a subset of old Egyptian hieroglyphs to represent consonants and the Phoenician traders spread these alphabets over the known world, where they've been changed to fit local phonetics.
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by Fletch (Bishop) on Nov 18, 2023 at 05:06 UTC
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Didn't even know fletch was a word! ...
apparently with three meanings:
- noun (archery). The vane toward the back of an arrow, used to stabilise the arrow during flight.
- noun (fisheries). A large boneless fillet of halibut, swordfish, or tuna.
- verb. To feather, as an arrow.
So, I'd say any emoji containing an arrow, a feather, or even a fish, might work.
Couldn't find any halibut, swordfish, tuna or fillet of fish emojis, which leaves:
- U+1F3F9 BOW AND ARROW : 🏹
- U+1FAB6 FEATHER : 🪶
- U+1F41F FISH : 🐟
I'll leave the final decision up to you. :)
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by afoken (Chancellor) on Nov 18, 2023 at 17:49 UTC
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| Bod | 💪🦵 | The Bod has a muscular physique |
That's a good example of how names and generally also words and phrases were and still are created in German Sign Language (DGS).
German, both as noun and as adjective, is signed by moving your fist with extended index finger in front and above of your forehead, as if the speaker was wearing a very typical prussian helmet, the Pickelhaube.
(Actually, that's the only word I know in DGS.)
The Hamburg University has a DGS dictionary, from there,
you can find word 83 "Deutsch", including a short video clip. (It's no accient or random coincidence that you find the DGS dictionary here. The Hamburg University has started research on the DGS and played a big role in getting it accepted as a fully-featured language equivalent to written and spoken German. It hosts the IDGS, the institute for German Sign Language] researching and educating DGS.)
Stock exchanges use their own sign language(s). Using a finger as a moustache shall remind of Adolf Hitler's typical toothbrush moustache,
and is the sign for the Deutsche Bank. Not very polite, not politically correct, but a distinct sign.
(Again, the only sign that I know.)
A few more signs can be found at https://www.sueddeutsche.de/geld/zeichensprache-an-der-boerse-die-geste-zaehlt-1.973935.
Alexander
--
Today I will gladly share my knowledge and experience, for there are no sweeter words than "I told you so". ;-)
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names [symbolic]
by kcott (Archbishop) on Nov 19, 2023 at 01:11 UTC
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"... which forced me to think outside the box, be creative, to have any chance of concocting a plausible emoji for a typical Perl Monk name ..."
Thinking outside the box, and given Unicode's plethora of symbols,
it occurred to me that symbolic representations of monk's names could be achieved without emoji.
Although not as colourful perhaps, I think they could be just as clever.
Consider this for Corion:
ͨ∨⚛︎⁺
$ uparse ͨ∨⚛︎⁺
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String: 'ͨ∨⚛︎⁺'
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U+368 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER C
∨ U+2228 LOGICAL OR
⚛ U+269B ATOM SYMBOL
U+FE0E VARIATION SELECTOR-15
⁺ U+207A SUPERSCRIPT PLUS SIGN
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[Note 1:
For those unfamiliar with the uparse command, see "uparse - Parse Unicode strings".]
[Note 2:
U+269B ATOM SYMBOL does not have the Emoji Presentation property.
It should, by default, be rendered in its text form.
Either my browser or font are not honouring this.
I added U+FE0E VARIATION SELECTOR-15 to force text rendering.]
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"... well, I think it's an improvement, what do you think?"
In the sense of '$A++ is a deformation of "A plus" ...' (from Re: Perl Secret Operator Emojis ($A++)) $A++ works for me.
When representing an increment operation, I'd prefer the more usual $A++.
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by Perlbotics (Archbishop) on Nov 18, 2023 at 19:11 UTC
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names (Dot aka Period aka Full Stop)
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Jul 21, 2024 at 11:15 UTC
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The inimitable Discipulus notified me of a Perl Monks username
of a mere Dot (aka Period aka Full Stop).
I naturally felt obliged to concoct a suitable emoji for this surprising PM user . - hence this reply.
After scouring the Unicode Full Emoji List,
I found three alternatives,
illustrated below with a traditional kcott Perl Monks greeting:
G'day ․,
G'day ⚫,
G'day 🕳,
Which one do you prefer? Alternative emoji suggestions welcome.
Output using kcott's uparse tool
~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl ․
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String: '․'
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․ U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl ⚫
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String: '⚫'
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⚫ U+26AB MEDIUM BLACK CIRCLE
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~/pm/kcott$ ./uparse-2.pl 🕳
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String: '🕳'
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🕳 U+1F573 HOLE
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soonix, Danke for the wikipedia reference!
Made me realise I'd just scratched the surface.
Speaking only one language, I've always been a long way behind
folks from Rockenhausen, Germany in Unicode knowledge and experience. :-)
For some reason, I only looked at unicode.org and not wikipedia like I usually do
... so thanks for the motivational prod.
After checking some wikipedia references, I've found a couple more:
G'day ◉,
G'day ⦿,
Though not strictly a dot, I quite like the look of a dot highlighted inside a circle.
Output from kcott's uparse tool:
• U+2022 BULLET
⦿ U+29BF CIRCLED BULLET
◉ U+25C9 FISHEYE
🕳 U+1F573 HOLE
⚫ U+26AB MEDIUM BLACK CIRCLE
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by Bod (Parson) on Nov 20, 2023 at 23:45 UTC
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by salva (Canon) on Nov 26, 2023 at 23:27 UTC
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Re: Emojis for Perl Monk names
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Jul 24, 2024 at 12:24 UTC
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A few more that caught my eye after re-reading: Name Space
Output using kcott's uparse tool
💻 U+1F4BB PERSONAL COMPUTER
🎥 U+1F3A5 MOVIE CAMERA
📼 U+1F4FC VIDEOCASSETTE
✂ U+2702 BLACK SCISSORS
🎞 U+1F39E FILM FRAMES
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
🦠 U+1F9A0 MICROBE
🤒 U+1F912 FACE WITH THERMOMETER
🐕 U+1F415 DOG
🐎 U+1F40E HORSE
🔔 U+1F514 BELL
👳 U+1F473 MAN WITH TURBAN
🏽 U+1F3FD EMOJI MODIFIER FITZPATRICK TYPE-4
U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER
♂ U+2642 MALE SIGN
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
🐔 U+1F414 CHICKEN
⚖ U+2696 SCALES
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
🦪 U+1F9AA OYSTER
👨 U+1F468 MAN
U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER
💻 U+1F4BB PERSONAL COMPUTER
👦 U+1F466 BOY
🤓 U+1F913 NERD FACE
🏝 U+1F3DD DESERT ISLAND
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
👨 U+1F468 MAN
U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER
💻 U+1F4BB PERSONAL COMPUTER
🔴 U+1F534 LARGE RED CIRCLE
🐿 U+1F43F CHIPMUNK
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
🤵 U+1F935 MAN IN TUXEDO
U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER
♂ U+2642 MALE SIGN
️ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16
🐜 U+1F41C ANT
🔮 U+1F52E CRYSTAL BALL
🔮 U+1F52E CRYSTAL BALL
⏰ U+23F0 ALARM CLOCK
🐸 U+1F438 FROG FACE
🍄 U+1F344 MUSHROOM
See Also
Egyptian Hieroglyphs References Added Later (thanks bliako :-)
Added later : japhy, NERDVANA, harangzsolt33
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