Re: Why was my account deleted?

[erzuuli]

Probably because (a) the username you created the account with is rubysinnhotels, not Ruby, and (b) those accounts were locked for spamming, and (c) you already have account, silent11. Use that.

Update: I made a mistake. You were actually referring to this account - which was not locked but rather zombified. (Two different things.) I have unzombified it. But note that secondary accounts don't get to vote on nodes.

It was zombified because (a) it never had any activity and (b) it had been several years since it was last logged in.

I'm curious why you're suddenly interested in it, considering you never did anything with it.

[eyepopslikeamosquito]

Update: I made a mistake. You were actually referring to this account - which was not locked but rather zombified. (Two different things.) I have unzombified it. But note that secondary accounts don't get to vote on nodes.

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I didn't know secondary accounts were allowed at PM. I just assumed they'd be banned, so as to avoid sock puppet "conversations" in threads, with the sock puppet loyally agreeing and praising his/her master ... admittedly, anonymonk can be used for that (as SunnyD was suspected of doing in the bad old days :-).

I just stumbled upon the Cookies secondary account created by Lady_Aleena here which I found to be fun. Yet I just don't see a plausible reason for the Ruby secondary account -- why create an account that just sits there doing nothing for 20 years?

[LanX]

I have various secondary accounts, primarily for testing. ²

(The remaining sockpuppets are primarily used to attack and insult me publicly. All this love and respect must be compensated)

The rule is IIRC° that secondaries are allowed, as long as the gods are informed and can disable voting.

It's stated somewhere, I forgot where... ¹

On a more serious note, dear goldeneyelikeamosquito, I could think of many more reasons to have secondary accounts, much the same like for posting anonymous, but having the benefit to communicate and log.

°) One of my biggest problems with English word order is where to correctly place abbreviations like "IIRC"

¹) Little known fact is that the topology of help and policy pages here inspired string theory, the cabal might be awarded with a noble price soon

²) Actually I lost track, but Gmail should know. Most probably were most already zombified and are now ravaging the graveyard of abandoned modules and eating the brain of former maintainers.

[LanX]

> > I didn't know secondary accounts were allowed at PM.

> It's stated somewhere, I forgot where...

Actually not that hard

• I had to log out
• find the login page
• follow the link to the rules

Site Rules Governing User Accounts

1. A person may have only one account which they use for voting.

2. Any person creating multiple accounts must identify and report these to the gods (/msg gods) and identify the one account which is to be used for voting. The other accounts will be barred from voting.

3. A person will not be able to use their voting account to vote on nodes belonging to any of their other accounts.

4. Creating a new account in order to circumvent /borging or other restrictions will not be tolerated.

Rest assured that any attempts to hide multiple accounts from the gods will fail. Have a nice day

[Ruby]

Hello, I'm Ruby.

[Anonymous Monk]

Are you happy now silent11? Now you can login with another account again, that has zero posts in almost 20 years before this amazing announcement.

[Anonymous Monk]

I didn't create any rubysinnhotels accounts. But that might explain why the account Ruby may have been deleted by mistake - tho I find it odd that there's actually evidence of the other account having ever existed. Perhaps because they had posts. spam bots > legitimate accounts.

"Why was my account deleted?" is a straight-forward and sincere question - As someone who works with applications, who's been involved in database maintenance, etc.. I'm just curious.

If the answer is, "we purge accounts here and don't keep an audit trails" that's OK - or if the answer is "this site is run by volunteers and the account may have been accidentally deleted" - that's acceptable too. It sounds like the answer is "We don't know.

What I don't understand is anyone taking offense to that question.

What is concerning is that a member of gods is now accusing me of 1) not knowing what account I created and 2) spamming perlmonks.

I provided what evidence I could to gods clearly showing emails from vroom to the user Ruby. Rather than responding to me at the email address I provided gods, which was associated with Ruby, you dox me instead.

This isn't the sort of behavior I'd expect from one of the gods.

I'll drop the question now as the tone in this thread has turned sour.

This will be my last post on this topic as Anonymous Monk, 2024-04-28 00:00:46Z

[erzuuli]

Please read my update above. I got the user wrong originally because (a) you said the user was locked, so I went looking for a locked user named 'ruby' and found that one, and (b) I didn't find any user named 'Ruby' because that account had been zombified, and zombified users have their names changed (by prepending 'Zombie ').

I should consider that users don't necessarily know all the minutiae of how this place works, e.g. the differences locking and zombifying. Sorry about that.

I didn't dox you. (1) People don't know who the real person is behind silent11 or Ruby — neither the real name nor the email address, which is all the info we have. And even that info isn't necessarily "real". (2) There are documented restrictions on what people can do with secondary accounts here, and we've made no representations that affiliations between primary and secondary accounts will be kept secret. Again, I wonder why you care so much, given that you never did anything with the secondary account.

I probably would have followed up by email except I saw you raise the question here, so I figured you wanted your question answered publicly. I regret that I misread you on that.