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Re: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.

by sundialsvc4 (Abbot)
on Jun 02, 2015 at 15:29 UTC ( #1128788=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.

Gentlemen, perhaps a few of you ought to know some of the things that I have been told ... quite unsolicited ... by professionals in the field:   “you could own PerlMonks, you know, and probably Tim Vroom, for defamation of character and public slander.”   (I even had a London Barrister contact me, again, unsolicited, and specifically offer to track down BrowserUK all the way across The Pond and to haul him in front of Her Majesty’s Court on my behalf.)   I have declined these offers.   So far.   (I don’t like lawyers.)

Enough.   Is enough.   If you don’t like someone, don’t like what s/he posts, then there is a very simple and courteous solution:   ignore that person.   Politely.   Professionally.

PerlMonks.org has a reputation for being a hostile place.   This is not a good reflection on the Perl language, nor the Perl professional community, nor this site.   It stands against everything that this site was long-ago created to do.   It is also an extremely negative reference for anyone who indulges in it, whether or not they hide behind the frock of Anonymous Monk.   It has no place here, nor anywhere.

We all want PerlMonks to be “the go-to site for Perl questions on the Internet.”   We therefore also want anyone to feel welcome to post their question, without even considering any risk of public humiliation, let alone castigation.   “This sort of thing” runs directly counter to that mission.

I therefore ask you all ... politely, but directly ... to stop, immediately..   To, “cease and desist.”   All of you are entirely out-of-line, and I should not have to say that.

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Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by marto (Archbishop) on Jun 02, 2015 at 16:00 UTC

    "you could own PerlMonks, you know, and probably Tim Vroom, for defamation of character and public slander."

    A professional told you this? beware, people calling themselves professionals often dish out terrible advice time and time again. Often regardless of repeat correction. Sound like anyone you know? I can link to many examples if required.

    "PerlMonks.org has a reputation for being a hostile place. This is not a good reflection on the Perl language, nor the Perl professional community, nor this site. It stands against everything that this site was long-ago created to do. It is also an extremely negative reference for anyone who indulges in it, whether or not they hide behind the frock of Anonymous Monk. It has no place here, nor anywhere."

    Would you like me to post examples of your posts which exhibit these complaints?

    "We all want PerlMonks to be “the go-to site for Perl questions on the Internet.” We therefore also want anyone to feel welcome to post their question, without even considering any risk of public humiliation, let alone castigation."

    People call you out on the technical content of your posts, often the same things time and time again and you ignore them. Would you like me to post examples of this? How does this contribute to your goal quoted here?

    "All of you are entirely out-of-line, and I should not have to say that."

    Followed by:

    "If you don’t like someone, don’t like what s/he posts, then there is a very simple and courteous solution: ignore that person."

    Seems like you're not taking your own advice, again. Another do as I say, not as I do post.

Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by GotToBTru (Prior) on Jun 02, 2015 at 16:30 UTC

    If PerlMonks is to be the go-to site for Perl questions, then the technical correctness of the answers must be heavily defended. That should be done politely and professionally, AND the rebuked party should accept correction. You must have both sides of that. Anything else is a farce.

    As to the social side, I was told before I joined that "the only answer you'll ever get on PM is 'RTFM, a**h***.'" 3 minutes perusal showed that was not the case, and also revealed that my informant was uninformed. I learned 2 things that day.

    I don't like the venom in this thread and I think it reflects poorly on the venomous. But they have greater credibility than you. You might want to consider that if ever those offers to sue become more appealing.

    Update: corrected spelling error.

    Dum Spiro Spero
Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by hippo (Canon) on Jun 02, 2015 at 15:58 UTC
    PerlMonks.org has a reputation for being a hostile place.

    On the contrary, PerlMonks has a reputation for being a welcoming place. That reputation has been well and hard earned. I hope that it will prevail in the face of your false assertion.

Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by Your Mother (Bishop) on Jun 02, 2015 at 15:48 UTC
Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Chancellor) on Jun 03, 2015 at 04:25 UTC

    I even had a London Barrister contact me, again, unsolicited, and specifically offer to track down BrowserUK all the way across The Pond and to haul him in front of Her Majesty’s Court on my behalf
    Logically, if a "London Barrister" is to "track down BrowserUK all the way across The Pond" then either the "London Barrister" or BrowserUK must be in the US.

    I love a good cloak-and-dagger story. Perhaps BrowserUK is staying at a friend's house while attending a country music festival in Nashville Tennessee? If not, who is this mysterious "London Barrister" and what is he doing in the US? The suspense is keeping me up at night.

Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Jun 02, 2015 at 17:06 UTC

    Try it! Please. Pretty please!


    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I'm with torvalds on this
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Agile (and TDD) debunked
Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Jun 02, 2015 at 17:09 UTC
    (I even had a London Barrister contact me, again, unsolicited, and specifically offer to track down BrowserUK all the way across The Pond and to haul him in front of Her Majesty’s Court on my behalf.)

    Liar!


    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I'm with torvalds on this
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Agile (and TDD) debunked
Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 02, 2015 at 18:50 UTC

    Make you a deal. I'll stop haranguing you for your choices in typography if you ”d-d-d-ial&tm;" it    back.

Re^2: Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 03, 2015 at 10:12 UTC
    You know as much about legal matters as computers. Nothing whatsoever. Groundless threats.

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