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Re: RFC: Emulating the monastery voting system

by sundialsvc4 (Abbot)
on Sep 11, 2015 at 21:05 UTC ( #1141716=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to RFC: Emulating the monastery voting system

If you “admire” the system, go for it.   But consider that I have encountered many discussions berating other forums for including downvotes and the ability to “lose” reputation.   Ratings systems can produce anti-social behavior and may drive users away.   Consider, for example:   rating posts but not people; allowing only upvotes; tallying up and down votes separately; counting only positive votes against a user’s reputation (if you choose to track it at the user-level at all).   Consider carefully the social impact of the system that you implement, because it will have an impact, and many users do not tolerate negativity especially when directed personally at them.   The implementation itself is quite trivial, requiring only one (or two) integer counter(s) in both the user and the post/reply record.

If you do implement this, also please provide the ability to search for posts based on, say, minimum number of upvotes.   (Another reason to count ups and downs distinct from one another.)   Where forums provide this capability, I use it a lot ... but I only want to see how many people liked the post or topic.

Bonus points if you implement “rate this post” and/or “rate this thread” with one-or-more individual criteria ... and double bonus-points if we can search on that, too.   As a forum matures and begins to carry hundreds of thousands of entries in its database, “finding(!) the good ’uns” can use all the search-options it can get.   Let there be participant-rating of content, but then, let me do something useful-to-me with this data, like refining my search.   Go further than PerlMonks has done.

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Re^2: RFC: Emulating the monastery voting system
by biohisham (Priest) on Sep 12, 2015 at 10:10 UTC

    You raise interesting points with regard to the social impact of voting, I haven't come across discussions, scientific or otherwise, of the negative aspects of downvoting when I was researching the feasibility of this idea so if you can give me the names of these forums that would be quite useful to my endeavor. Because, yeah, we want our website to continue from where others have reached and avoid some of the pitfalls you may say, that others have experienced.

    Search refinement is something we considered and would implement.



    Something or the other, a monk since 2009
      ...we considered and would implement.

      I would just recommend that all of these policies be implemented via easily editable configuration parameters. Input from my personal experience. :-)

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

        Interestingly, we're following a modular approach to implementing each of these in order to ease any future re-configuration.

        Interestingly, we started our campaign on Facebook and have over 24,000 members hence we decided to make a website and are planning for migrating this population over. I thought our monastery has more than 16,000 zombies though ;)



        Something or the other, a monk since 2009
Re^2: RFC: Emulating the monastery voting system
by soonix (Abbot) on Sep 14, 2015 at 12:49 UTC
    The implementation itself is quite trivial, requiring only one (or two) integer counter(s) in both the user and the post/reply record.
    … except if you want to exclude duplicate votes. Try this link (will work only for logged-in users, and you should replace the number with the ID of your user page)

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