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Re: Is there a place on PM outlining community policy

by Your Mother (Archbishop)
on Mar 23, 2016 at 04:43 UTC ( [id://1158586]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Is there a place on PM outlining community policy

Is this helpful for attracting new people to Perl and to this site?

No. How could it be? No one, but no one, reads something like that before participating.

You cannot force others to act in the way you choose. Some of the most helpful monks and some of the biggest contributors in the Perl-world are what I would call uncivil. Because one uses harsh language or is intolerant does not make one’s contributions meaningless or unwanted. I say this not as a contributor who is prone to dish abuse but as an ordinary participant who has received same; both here and in the Perlsphere. Are we hackers or children? Is this the real, professional world or is it gradeschool?

FOSS is more than free software. It’s an ethos that is either “full stack” or is hollow. Linus Torvalds is a notorious asshole but he can only be regarded—in my view—as a saint. Warm feelings do not make software run. Politically correct social behavior cops cannot change bad behavior. A promise of this kind of safety is a lie. All lies are a waste of time. Good intentions do not make a waste of time acceptable.

(Update: missing “not” added. DERP.)

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Re^2: Is there a place on PM outlining community policy
by mr_mischief (Monsignor) on Mar 31, 2016 at 15:26 UTC
    Are we hackers or children? Is this the real, professional world or is it gradeschool?

    We're all those things and more. PerlMonks and the Perl community are not a homogenous block of one kind of person in one job title in one industry at one age bracket.

    I agree that things don't always have to be completely civil. However we should remind people that being a competent person who's a jerk on a regular basis is less productive than being a competent person who's a jerk only rarely.

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