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Re^3: RFC: Better Best Answers

by ww (Archbishop)
on Sep 13, 2016 at 19:38 UTC ( #1171689=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^2: RFC: Better Best Answers
in thread RFC: Better Best Answers

"If site participation were as great or greater than in the olden days, I'd agree with you; but as was recently brought up, participation in the site is waning, and commensurately the number of votes cast. Indeed, part of my reason for thinking it would be nice to dole out more votes to the active members is to mitigate, at least a little bit, the disadvantage that more recent nodes have against older nodes."

That's certainly valid, and probably constitutes an incontestable answer to my concerns; one that obviates those concerns. But, FTR, I'm not completely "comfy" with the notion of extra votes as early as Level 11: that's a status that can probably be obtained in just a few weeks by an XP whore.

And the balance of "crowd sourced approbation" with some "elitist control" is a very strong plus for your idea. Again, thank you!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Juvenal, Satires

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Re^4: RFC: Better Best Answers
by stevieb (Abbot) on Sep 13, 2016 at 19:50 UTC

    Would it help if extra votes are handed out only if monks at a certain level have X number of total posts with at least 25% of them 10++ (these are arbitrary numbers just as an example), if such a thing is even feasible? Or, the number of extra votes handed out is based on some statistic like above?

    update... or perhaps even the votes get doled out after monk with < X level receives this special voting on X number of their own posts?

      Thanks. It sounds like you're trying to come up with "better" heuristics for doling out extra votes. Have at it; my suggested heuristic above was simply one idea. But how extra votes are doled out is not really central to the proposed innovation.

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

        My heuristic would be simpler, and less prescriptive than those I've seen suggested.

        It is based upon the somewhat naive, but egalitarian ideal that everyones opinion is as valid as the next.

        It is: No change in the number of votes per level; just simply that everyone can, if they have a vote remaining, vote (upvote*) twice on any node they consider worthy of special merit. That additional vote decrements their existing tally in the usual way.

        I see no reason to restrict this to any given level:

        Why is the opinion of someone new to programming; or even an experienced programmer new to Perl; or even experienced with Perl but new to this site; lesser than someone who has hung around on the periphery of this place accumulating attendance votes and the occasional "what have you tried" or "read the formatting guidelines" or "etiquette demands that you announce your cross-posting" or "X-Y problem" replies?

        *I'd also allow double down-voting -- I consider the condemnation of bad posts as, if not more important as the commendation of good posts -- but I am aware that could be controversial in some quarters. (For those quarters, think of it this way: you'd have had double the potential to put me in my place!)

        Whilst I am quite sure that there will be small cliques of monks that will arrange to double upvote each others posts; I am naive enough to believe that they will be more than offset by the: "I vote on those posts that surprise, delight or educate me" majority.

        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I knew I was on the right track :)
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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