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Re^6: Review of CGI::Alternatives

by Anonymous Monk
on Jun 11, 2018 at 02:16 UTC ( #1216359=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^5: Review of CGI::Alternatives
in thread Review of CGI::Alternatives

Mod_perl is not the future, it is the past. CGI is not a best practice. Monolithic, kitchen sink architecture like it and apache is a dead end.

How much does The Python Software Foundation pay you to troll Perl sites to dis-courage us? Everyone knows Nginx is a lightweight proxy that hides the juicy app servers running some Apache project. Apple ships relatively up to date Perl, Apache and mod_perl because they kick ass, and so smart people can use them.

  • My search engine is Perl: duckduckgo.com/hiring/#open
  • My bookings are Perl: blog.booking.com
  • My shopping came from Perl: amazon.com
  • My wiki? Thank you Perl: wikipedia.org

THE NEXT BIG THING? Could easily be written by some little girl on her macbook using built-in Perl and Apache/mod_perl!

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Re^7: Review of CGI::Alternatives
by Your Mother (Bishop) on Jun 11, 2018 at 03:16 UTC

    This is you, isn't it?

    • I've installed mod_perl on OS X when it wasn't there. The deep shortcomings of some of Apple's developer kit were clear then. They have improved but as recently as a year ago still had real problems and UI blockers for things that are trivial to build on Linux like SDL. The speech synth module can apparently jam up an OS X machine completely right now.
    • DuckDuckGo is great. I have a high paying Perl job already though and have had nothing else for 15 years straight.
    • Booking.com is fabulous. I use it and would absolutely consider working there if conditions warranted. I have worked in Perl in the NL, UK, and DE.
    • I did a nickel at Amazon when most of the backend tools were Perl—I wrote a few of them—and the site templating system still was an in house flavor of it. The backend was exactly the monolithic monster I've been cautioning against and it had seized up development and expansion almost completely. It was extremely painful and expensive to escape it. The same thing happened to the big toys site of the day with their Perl backend. Apache and mod_perl were not enough for them the first Christmas their site saw real traffic because the architecture was antiquated. That was like 1999 or 2000 when the Internet was a comparative ghost town.
    • MediaWiki was indeed prototyped in Perl. It was abandoned quickly because the performance was too awful. Again reinforcing everything I've been saying.
    • I have a serious distaste for Python and Microsoft and Oracle and plenty others. I generally keep it to myself because it's more professional. Your repeated revisiting of conspiracy theories bespeaks an inconsistent adherence to the directions on the prescription label.
    • I have taught Perl at various places. I have taught kids Perl on a Mac. I'm fixing to drop $5-6K on a new Mac this week that will sit next to the IIsi that still runs. I'm not all talk.

    It's probably clear to everyone, you got my goat. You took an interesting idea and valid complaint and shoveled a short ton of vaca caca on top. Why in the world would anyone want to work with or take cues from some nameless, error tossing screed factory with your attitude, biases, and practices from the 1990s? Whatever the next big thing will be, it will have no relation to you.

      "...How much does The Python Software Foundation pay you to troll Perl sites to dis-courage us? Everyone knows Nginx is a lightweight proxy that hides the juicy app servers running some Apache project. Apple ships relatively up to date Perl, Apache and mod_perl because they kick ass, and so smart people can use them..."

      crap #3

      «The Crux of the Biscuit is the Apostrophe»

      perl -MCrypt::CBC -E 'say Crypt::CBC->new(-key=>'kgb',-cipher=>"Blowfish")->decrypt_hex($ENV{KARL});'Help

      I want you to know that your greatness is recognized. If only half your bio is true you would still be a hero of Perl. I'm not on or off any meds it's just an obnoxious sense of something, hopefully related to humor, at least once in a while.

      > This is you, isn't it?

      No I did not challenge you.

      > The speech synth module can apparently jam

      That was me! :-)

      MediaWiki was indeed prototyped in Perl. It was abandoned quickly because the performance was too awful. Again reinforcing everything I've been saying.

      Has anyone seen that source code? It probably has backtracking regexes all over the place or something. Since when is PHP faster than properly deployed Perl? I know you don't like my little theories but wiki was coincidentally "replaced" during a time of extreme php evangelism and constant vicious attacks against THE "competition" for their commerce: an established free open perl community. Are we sure some zend operatives didn't talk wiki out of perl for the sheer profit of market share? Corporate espionage and sabotage are very serious businesses even when I'm being too suspicious of coincidences. (Like the scam to give away slow versions of PHP that you could pay to make faster with expensive hosting services.)

      Even if Wikipedia absolutely HAD to be translated into PHP3 (or was it 4?) because Perl 5 sucked 18 years ago and mod_perl was way slower than mod_php at the time (really? lol) the point of mentioning it is that Wikipedia was indeed prototyped in Perl. I often hear Perl is good for doing that sort of thing rapidly. They should have fixed the wiki and stuck with Perl instead of being recruited by an evangelical pseudo-intellectual cult of rabid vulture capitalist carpetbaggers obsessed with spreading their ridiculously bad copy of Perl:

      "We founded Zend roughly two and a half years after starting on PHP with the mandate to provide backing and solutions for companies using PHP, and also to proliferate the usage of PHP around the world."-Zeev

      Why in the world would anyone want to work with or take cues from some nameless, error tossing screed factory with your attitude, biases, and practices from the 1990s?

      Because the 90s spawned tons of cool technology that is still completely relevant, one of which this site is all about, and, as you know, still included with every new Apple computer! As for my namelessness this site graciously allows it so whatever. I AM a screed factory with attitude and biases but I don't mind my errors being corrected either. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and all your work for Perl!

      Speaking of the world, I can't help but notice that our favorite American programming language has been under constant attack by an axis of evil international forces from Canada, Israel (PHP), Holland (Python), Japan (Ruby) and Russia (How does one guy named Igor beat the entire (U.S.A.) Apache Software Foundation? Cool name though...).

      Ahh the fun never ends: www.eschrade.com/page/why-is-fastcgi-w-nginx-so-much-faster-than-apache-w-mod_php/

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