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The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018

by usemodperl (Beadle)
on Jun 19, 2018 at 20:06 UTC ( #1216969=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I wonder what will happen the day search.cpan.org goes away, and the day after. One more week and we will know! Does Perlmonks get flooded with identical questions? Does FUD gleefully announcing the death of Perl and CPAN make the rounds?? Do those redirects work???

STOP REINVENTING WHEELS, START BUILDING SPACE ROCKETS!CPAN

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Re: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018
by marto (Archbishop) on Jun 20, 2018 at 09:00 UTC

    "Do those redirects work??"

    https://github.com/metacpan/sco-redirect

    Update: "Does FUD gleefully announcing the death of Perl and CPAN make the rounds??". for completeness, since confusion has already been demonstrated in the comments on noc announcement, cpan.org (linked above) isn't going anywhere, and already directs searches to Metacpan, has done for some time.

      I've been deploying websites since the beginning and the cpan situation seems... odd.

      Why just toss such an ancient, functional and valuable URI (it's worth millions of dollars!)?

      Shouldn't it be the other way round, with whatever META means being replaced by SEARCH (in the url)?

      Meta doesn't even look like CPAN.

      Why even risk breaking so many incoming links?

      It's such a bad idea I would pay to stop it. I can kick in five figures. Where do I send the check?

      The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity.—Damian Conway
        "Meta doesn't even look like CPAN."

        CPAN is not the front end here. CPAN is the collection of distributions in a central location. search.cpan.org is simply a method to access it. Besides, the most infrequent thing I do with CPAN is search it so the name is irrelevant to me. Also, I much prefer the look and feel of meta, and when someone enters a search link and I want to review the distribution, I manually review it on meta as opposed to clicking the link.

        "It's such a bad idea I would pay to stop it. I can kick in five figures. Where do I send the check?"

        Right here. for $99,999, I guarantee you that within a month I will have the whole thing re-created ;)

        Have you considered actually raising these issues with the people who are in a position to do respond with authority? 301s will result in search engine index entries being updated, over time. The redirects will have been tested (you could do this yourself if you wanted), so I don't think breakage is going to be a problem.

Re: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018
by LanX (Archbishop) on Jun 19, 2018 at 21:52 UTC
      >> Does Perlmonks get flooded with identical questions?

      > And has searching the monastery been invented yet???


      Never! Who would do all their homework? ☺
Re: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 20, 2018 at 14:28 UTC
    I never quite understood why it is going away anyhow. What's so wrong with it?

      It's a lot of work and money to maintain and it's essentially duplicating/splitting the metacpan efforts in term of functionality. I think users are starting to vote with their feet as well so it's just better to do this earlier than later.

      I was always grateful for search.cpan until metacpan got out of "beta." At this point search.cpan is just an irritant; being the first link(s) in search results. Personally, I'll be happy to see it out of the mix. I have not used it intentionally in years at this point.

        I hope they remember to add a permanent redirect.
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