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Re^5: Last and Least

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on Sep 01, 2018 at 07:30 UTC ( #1221500=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^4: Last and Least
in thread Last and Least

If you think Tye stopped coming around because I questioned the basis of his autocratic authority; you didn't know Tye very well.

I miss him too. We had some quite wonderful arguments and I learned a huge amount from him.

I also miss a whole raft of other monks that no longer come around, from broquaint on up; many of whom moved on despite my never having crossed swords with them.

You and I have crossed swords -- as well as having had some positive and productive discussions -- and you're still here.

I barely interact here these days not because I've lost my love of Perl(5), but because

  • it has ceased to be a tool that clients will accept for those few bits of work I still take on.

    A reflection of the perception, if not reality, in the wider world that Perl hasn't moved on in the last 10 years.

  • this place no longer provides the ready source of intellectually challenging and stimulating problems that it once did.

    A reflection that very few people are using Perl for interesting work these days.

  • and the continuing distaste this place has for off-topic questions means I now seek my answers elsewhere.

    Almost all of the questions I might ask here involve programming at some level; and many could be coerced such that I could ask them in terms of Perl code -- as I have done many times in the past -- but the best questions become muddied by their coercion into Perl programming and it limits the scope and breadth of the responses.

    Besides which it gets tedious to keep performing that coercion.


With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". The enemy of (IT) success is complexity.
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Re^6: Last and Least
by LanX (Archbishop) on Sep 01, 2018 at 13:23 UTC
    > If you think Tye stopped coming around because I questioned the basis of his autocratic authority

    I don't

    > I miss him too.

    And do you think he's missing you too?

    > You and I have crossed swords ... and you're still here.

    I learned filtering and ignoring you. Not feeding your erratic behavior helped making this place enjoyable.

    You are very rudely attacking people - people who invested a huge amount of time in CPAN, conferences, IRC, pmdev, and so on - while you are hiding behind anonymity.

    But you didn't only call Tye by his real name on a public board, you also accused him to block you.

    So clients googling his name will find this smear, clients googling your real name won't.

    Chromatic has at least a long record of achievements (including promoting P6 for 10 years!), your XPs are based on faster algorithms and funny rants in your mother language.

    Nobody knows how many monks stopped participating here because of your behavior.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

      "Nobody knows how many monks stopped participating here because of your behavior."

      Seems like an odd thing to say, since nobody knows, there's nothing to stop anyone making this statement to any other user.

        Right...

        But if BUK claims that sundial stopped because of him and that I stayed because I tolerate his behavior, it's equally unfunded.

        Sometimes bad arguments are best countered by mirroring them.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

      How's promoting P6 for 10 years an achievement? Considering the number of people still interested in the thing I'd rather call it an utter failure.

      Jenda
      Enoch was right!
      Enjoy the last years of Rome.

        Well ... I was pointing at the paradox of his recent stance.

        Irony is in the eye of the beholder... (shrug)

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

        update

        to be clear I don't share your opinion.

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