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Re: Re: 0.02

by bmcatt (Friar)
on Nov 21, 2001 at 22:00 UTC ( #126809=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

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Well, agreed somewhat on CGI::Application. To be honest, I hadn't seen either of the other two when I started thinking about this and found boo_radley's version posted here.

The reason I originally started trying to do something like this was that I'd found CGI::Application but didn't like that it didn't have either integrated validation or integrated support for template management. Then I found HTML::Template and it's another piece. Then there's Data::FormValidator, etc.

It seems like everyone wants to solve a piece of the problem without necessarily solving the entire problem (or providing a good set of glue to make all the pieces fit together). This module provides templating, that module provides for individual field validation, this other module provides for flow control.

That's all wonderful (and I'm really not getting down on the contributions of others), but with a large collection of modules, none of which do the entire task, and potentially non-trivial glue to write, it made me think there had to be a better way.

I'm definitely not saying that this ( is the better way. I'm going to sit and take a long look at the modules mentioned, but I think I'll be able to stand by my previous statement that most take a piecemeal approach to this problem.

Heck, maybe the right way to solve this is to come up with the glue that binds an orthogonal yet complete bunch of the pieces together. Dunno... That wasn't the swamp I was looking to drain. :-)

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Re: Re: Re: 0.02
by uwevoelker (Pilgrim) on Nov 21, 2001 at 22:08 UTC
    > I'm going to sit and take a long look at the modules mentioned

    And when you do this, please also look at and the other frameworks mentioned on princepawn's homenode (like OpenFrame, OpenInteract, OpenThought, CGI::XMLApplication and so on).
Re: Re: Re: 0.02
by perrin (Chancellor) on Nov 21, 2001 at 22:29 UTC
    The tools I mentioned are really meant as glue code between the various pieces. They're trying to do the same thing you are. It might be more efficient to look at these and choose the one that's closest to what you want, and then add the additional features you need to it. That will give you an instant set of testers for your work.

    I would suggest giving OpenInteract a look as well.

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