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(ar0n: wrong) Re: am I paying vroom to continue his dictatorship?

by ar0n (Priest)
on Dec 26, 2001 at 14:50 UTC ( #134379=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to am I paying vroom to continue his dictatorship?

Once again, you're wrong.

vroom has on many occasions given users the option to participate in 'governing' this site. A prime example of this is the editors group. Not just that, but also the ability for 'normal' users to consider nodes for deletion, and suggesting new features.

There's a pmdev group for users that are interested enough in helping out with the development of the site. vroom's proven many times (especially when you're able to catch him on IRC) to be open minded and willing to listen to suggestions you might have. Ask jcwren, Petruchio or scores of other users.

In fact, due to the fact that vroom has a day job, I'd be willing to claim that this site has pretty much been running itself for the last few months. How is that a dictatorship?

If anything, I'd be more inclined to call vroom a concierge than a dictator.

Yes, it's true that vroom has the final say in what pmdev patches he accepts, but the same goes for Larry. Do you have a problem with that, too?

... I guess that's the Perl way, just keep agglutinating things from here and there, allowing them to be the way they are and coalescing into bigger and bigger wholes...

What's your point?

[ ar0n -- want job (boston) ]

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Re: (ar0n: wrong) Re: am I paying vroom to continue his dictatorship?
by theorbtwo (Prior) on Dec 30, 2001 at 13:26 UTC

    This reminds me of something I've been wondering for a while.

    Why pmdev? AFAICS, the powers of pmdev are:

    1. The ability to read the code of PM
    2. The ability to post to a section of the site for suggestions for changes to the monastery that vroom reads and sometimes picks up from.

    Why not open the ability to "use the source, Luke" to the masses? I've brought this up once before, in Let the doors open wide!, but (I think) put it very poorly, and didn't suggest this in particular.

    Don't like the powers that vroom keeps to himself? Write a patch giving users more power, post it on Perl Monks Discussion, and see what people think. Perhaps somebody who is on pmdev will pick it up.

    Wonder just when Node Reaper appears on the chatterbox? Use the source, Luke.

    The reasoning behind pmdev seemed to originally be to keep vroom from getting flooded by patches. (See pmdev user group, the original announcement of pmdev.) But I don't see how the first point helps this.

    Any takers? Will I have to replace the "Largest XP sink" link on my homenode? <G>.

    James Mastros,
    Just Another Perl Scribe

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