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Perl6, baby perl and nurturing environmentby stefp (Vicar) |
on Jun 09, 2002 at 02:59 UTC ( [id://172869]=note: print w/replies, xml ) | Need Help?? |
This is very much a non sequitur.
I have never bought the concept of baby perl because
ones has soon to deal with adult code. In a sense I realize this is
a chance because I have long lived in a closed source world without the opportunity of seing adult code propagated
by openness of various flavors of free software. But this is also a challenge, first to master
it, than to get it accepted from people without such exposure. Even when Perl demonstrates a keen understanding of
Natural Language Principles. In the section "more is more" of your paper, speaking of the C++ language you critize the approach of teaching by subsetting. I am well aware that you strive to avoid the grammatical traps that you criticize in C++ but showed fixable. Larry and you choose the freeness of designing a new syntax instead of building on top of an existing one (unllike perl5 trapped in backward compatibility without any more acceptable degreea of liberty to grow) But really, does this notion of baby perl make sense without a nurturing motherwise environment? I am not speaking of social ones: perl mongers, YAPC (these two thanks to Kevin Lenzo and YAS), perl monks, and O'Reilly conference have been instrumental here. I am speaking of high level tools. Currently, we are trapped between Visual-Studio like environment or emacs/vi like. Even the bases, binding graphical toolit are not there. When KDE is getting a clear lead. The perl crowd is trapped in the oldish Tk or slowing moving to Gtk. I know that you, leaders, are already busy with the core of Perl but I feel that these outer peels of the onion don't get the attention they deserve... even if I see that a proof of concept Qt appli is bundled with parrot. Despite its long and useful life, Perl never got the exposure he desserve, and like linux did, must learn to be visible on the deskop Note: I must confess I have not recently followed Activestate progress but their tools seemed top heavy last time I checked..
-- stefp -- check out TeXmacs wiki PS: someone talked of two languages side by side. I have the opposite opinion, A5 hints how can regular perl and so called regexes can mix and interact so intimately. I am eager to see that in action in your exegis.
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