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Re: The Case for Javascript

by BUU (Prior)
on Nov 18, 2002 at 21:47 UTC ( [id://213939]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to The Case for Javascript

A couple people replying here have made the point that 'not everybodys browser supports it', which is just your standard chicken and egg scenario involving these sort of things. Like linux and business apps.(We dont use linux b/c no apps. We don't make apps b/c no one uses it). Which is why web designers as a whole need to start saying 'If your using ns4/ie4, for the love of god, upgrade'. I'm willing to bet that probably around 99% people using ns4 that went to some website they wanted to use, such as their bank or something, saw something that said 'please upgrade', with a quick painless link to do so, would upgrade. Most of these people do not form romantic infatuations with their browsers, and are willing to upgrade if thats whats nesscessary to do what they want to do, but they would not upgrade 'just because'.


Also, these points are helping to slow down the development of the internet as a whole. If we look at the history of the internet, you can almost trace the progress from a basic text display, to a sophisticated interactive application for any number of things. And personally, i would much rather use javascript to do these things, instead of, say, Flash, or Shockwave. But hey, maybe thats just me, maybe everyone else loves programming GUIs in flash?

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Re: Re: The Case for Javascript
by grantm (Parson) on Nov 19, 2002 at 07:55 UTC
    I'm willing to bet that probably around 99% people using ns4 that went to some website they wanted to use, such as their bank or something, saw something that said 'please upgrade', with a quick painless link to do so, would upgrade.

    For some people (my mother?) there is nothing either quick or painless about downloading and installing a new browser. They have a system that works and they do not want to break it. I don't see too many people still running Netscape 4.X but I'd be willing to bet that a fair proportion of those that are still using it are simply too scared or rather too cautious to upgrade.

Re^2: The Case for Javascript
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Nov 20, 2002 at 14:58 UTC
    saw something that said 'please upgrade', with a quick painless link to do so, would upgrade.
    What about folks who peruse the web for their job and don't have the rights/permission to install new software? I'm not infatuated with Lynx, but why not support it if you can still offer all the eyecandy you want at the same time?
    personally, i would much rather use javascript to do these things, instead of, say, Flash, or Shockwave.
    I would much rather use CSS for as much as can be done with it, and Flash for what cannot.
    But hey, maybe thats just me, maybe everyone else loves programming GUIs in flash?
    I write GUIs in GtkPerl and sites in XHTML/CSS.

    Makeshifts last the longest.

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