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Top goal for 2003

by vroom (His Eminence)
on Jan 08, 2003 at 01:08 UTC ( #225131=poll: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Vote on this poll

Lose weight
[bar] 37/8%
Get In Shape
[bar] 58/13%
Money Related
[bar] 46/10%
Get a Date
[bar] 45/10%
Become an Uber-Coder
[bar] 84/19%
Win the Lottery
[bar] 26/6%
Get a life
[bar] 40/9%
Get a (new)? job
[bar] 79/17%
[bar] 38/8%
453 total votes
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(ar0n) Re: Top goal for 2003
by ar0n (Priest) on Jan 08, 2003 at 08:15 UTC
    I am missing the option "Be happy"
      bah! (happy eq 'Uber-Coder') :-)

      or am i just "interesting"...?

Re: Top goal for 2003
by mce (Curate) on Jan 08, 2003 at 09:06 UTC

    I am going to win the lottery, so I can install a fitness center and get in shape. This way, I'll loose weigth.

    Then I'll try to get a rich date, and I can start working for her dad as a perl coder.

    If this isn't a new life, I don't know what is.
    Dr. Mark Ceulemans
    Senior Consultant
    IT Masters, Belgium

Re: Top goal for 2003
by vek (Prior) on Jan 08, 2003 at 05:31 UTC
    All of the above. Well, perhaps not the 'get a date' option as I don't think the ol' wifey would like that very much :-)

    -- vek --

      So what's stopping you from taking your wife out on a date?

      --- print map { my ($m)=1<<hex($_)&11?' ':''; $m.=substr('AHJPacehklnorstu',hex($_),1) } split //,'2fde0abe76c36c914586c';
        Ha ha! Well pfaut, I thought that 'get-a-date' implied finding someone as apposed to 'go-on-a-date' which would imply that you already had someone to go on a date with (which I do).

        -- vek --
Re: Top goal for 2003
by BronzeWing (Monk) on Jan 08, 2003 at 02:04 UTC

    This year I *will* become an Uber-Coder!
    Oh yeah, winning the lottery would be nice too.

    I wonder how the 2003 poll will match up with last year's (this one here)?

    Perl Monks do it more than one way.

Re: Top goal for 2003
by theorbtwo (Prior) on Jan 08, 2003 at 03:40 UTC

    As I said last year, I'm picking "get a life" since it includes almost all of the others. ("Become an über-coder" is also on my list, but not nearly as high... sadly, it's the most likely to happen.)

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Re: Top goal for 2003
by Courage (Parson) on Jan 08, 2003 at 07:44 UTC
    ... to see Perl6 fully functional and healthy and showing its power and strengths.

    As Perl6 parser is implemented via independent Perl5 module via Parse::RecDescent I would be happy if perl6 programs also could be run with Perl5 only without parrot engine, as well as with parrot installed.

    It would be a great happy-plums for me
    Courage, the Cowardly Dog

Re: Top goal for 2003
by SparkeyG (Curate) on Jan 08, 2003 at 02:08 UTC
    Last year I lost wieght. 45 pounds to be exact. Now I need to regain the muscle I had before college, with its beer, internet accesss, and girls.
Re: Top goal for 2003
by Phaysis (Pilgrim) on Jan 08, 2003 at 08:50 UTC
    Ok. I chose "get a date" because, well, I'd like one. :) I'd also like to become a ubercoder. And get in shape. And get a life. Hmm. I'd like to win the lottery, too; however, winning the lottery would kind of precipitate the other options. Y'think? Maybe I should've picked that. Hmm.

    I guess this year I actually have resolutions. A first for me.

    • get a laptop
    • finish my website engine
    • finish my album
    • get more financially resilient
    Eh, for the most part, they're achievable. Hopefully so, eh? A good start, to be sure. Here's to 2003. Godspeed, y'all. (Good poll, by the way.)

    -Shawn / (Ph) Phaysis
    If idle hands are the tools of the devil, are idol tools the hands of god?

Re: Top goal for 2003
by cecil36 (Pilgrim) on Jan 08, 2003 at 15:06 UTC
    Looking at the poll options:

    Lose weight: Lost 35 pounds already, but can lose another 20 more to get my body mass index to a healthy range.
    Get In Shape: See above.
    Money Related: Developing my businesses would help tremendously here.
    Get a Date: Already have one. She lives in Georgia.
    Become an Uber-Coder: What about uber-network admin?
    Win the Lottery: I don't participate in the poor man's pension.
    Get a life: Why? I already have one.
    Get a (new)? job: They don't pay me enough where I'm at now. Anybody in the Atlanta/Macon GA area looking for someone who is A+ certified, currently pursuing a CCNA, and has experience in customer support to fill a help desk position?
    Other: Relocate to Georgia for the above reasons (especially the one about my date).
Re: Top goal for 2003
by logan (Curate) on Jan 08, 2003 at 18:54 UTC
    Uh, all of the above? Good God, we're all living the stereotype: Fat, single, technology-obsessed geeks, now returned to the pre-internet days when the ability to write #!/usr/bin/perl didn't gaurantee $40K to start.

    • Lose weight: Yep, 12 hours a day in front of a keyboard will do that to you. So will turning 30 if you're not careful. This year, I intend to lose 20 pounds by Comic-con. To translate to perl:
      s/Comic-Con/Oreilly Open Source Con/g.
      s/San Diego/Portland/g
    • Get In Shape: see above
    • Money Related: Yep, Bush's new tax cut for the hyper-rich oughta take care of that. Wait, sorry, wrong web site.
    • Get a Date: See "Get In Shape/Lose Weight". Ignore the part about comic books.
    • Become an Uber-Coder: Sadly, this pretty much requires biting the bullet and learning C. Maybe.
    • Win the Lottery : Hmm, odds of winning: 1 in 7 million. Yep, that's worth $1 a week.
    • Get a life : I have a life. I just need a better one.
    • Get a new job : Hopefully, this won't be neccessary.
    • Other: I am always open to other.

    "What do I want? I'm an American. I want more."

Re: Top goal for 2003
by spacewarp (Pilgrim) on Jan 08, 2003 at 16:08 UTC
    I made some New Years resolutions, but they all got overturned on appeal.


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Re: Top goal for 2003
by zakzebrowski (Curate) on Jan 08, 2003 at 11:53 UTC
    sad... get a date was my goal *last* year...

    Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate - mysql's philosphy
Re: Top goal for 2003
by mowgli (Friar) on Jan 08, 2003 at 13:44 UTC
    Now, where's the poll option that says 'All of the above'? :)


Re: Top goal for 2003
by roke (Curate) on Jan 08, 2003 at 08:50 UTC
    Definitely "win the lottery", so I can pay back my house loan quicker... :)

Re: Top goal for 2003
by claree0 (Hermit) on Jan 08, 2003 at 10:08 UTC
    Have a healthy kiddo, and get used to not working afterwards



      Sorry to disappoint you but once the kid turns up you will be working harder than ever - just not getting paid for it (unless you count happiness as a reward!)


Re: Top goal for 2003
by Rex(Wrecks) (Curate) on Jan 08, 2003 at 18:09 UTC
    Other - mainly, use my vacation time on real vacations instead of taking all of December and half of November off cuz it's "use it or lose it" and spending the time sitting on my ass coding and playing games.

    "Nothing is sure but death and taxes" I say combine the two and its death to all taxes!
Re: Top goal for 2003
by talexb (Chancellor) on Jan 08, 2003 at 22:01 UTC
    • Lose weight -- I can always keep trying I suppose.
    • Get In Shape -- Losing weight first would help.
    • Money Related -- Yeah. Make some retirement contributions.
    • Get a Date -- Got one. :)
    • Become an Uber-Coder -- Working on it. :) This place helps.
    • Win the Lottery -- Someone described lotteries as a 'Stupidity Tax'. At odds of 13 million to 1, I'll take mutual funds for $1000 please Alex.
    • Get a life -- Get one. :)
    • Get a (new)? job -- Heh, I really like the one I got in October. No thanks.
    --t. alex
    Life is short: get busy!
Re: Top goal for 2003
by Emanuel (Pilgrim) on Jan 08, 2003 at 15:02 UTC
    Get a (new?) job.

    I do have a job right now, but since 2 years i'm living in a city far away from most of my friends. I moved here cuz of a job opportunity, and ever since miss my old hometown and partying with my buddies. Plus my current job here became worse over time, alas I don't feel like staying here much longer.

    So I'm hoping i'll be able to find a job back in my hometown, although the industry there isn't all that great, and it's quite hard to find anything decent there (judging from my last couple days of jobsearch).

Re: Top goal for 2003
by gmpassos (Priest) on Jan 08, 2003 at 18:35 UTC
    - What we gonna do this year?
    - Try to conquer the world!

    update: Hey! was a joke! Don't need to -vote!

    Graciliano M. P.
    "The creativity is the expression of the liberty".

Altruism @ Microsoft
by BigLug (Chaplain) on Jan 09, 2003 at 03:09 UTC
    Its great to see that the option to 'Win the Lottery' is coming last (at the moment). I guess the altruism probably comes with the open source movement. It'd be interesting to run the same poll inside Microsoft :)

      Its great to see that the option to 'Win the Lottery' is coming last (at the moment). I guess the altruism probably comes with the open source movement.

      Really? I thought it was because most people here understand how probability works :)

      The lottery is basically a tax on the poor. Publicising people who win makes millions dream it could be them. What about publicising things that have a higher chance of happening to you. Every year the odds of certain events happening to you:

      • being struck by lightening and killed (4,210,857 to 1)
      • being electricuted (550,382 to 1)
      • dying while flying in air/space transport (250,032 to 1)
      • dying as the result of a fall (17,702 to 1)
      • dying in a motor accident (6,078 to 1)

      Whereas the odds of winning the jackpot in the California Super Lotto Jackpot (for example), are about 18,000,000 to 1.

      Sanity Check - what a bummer, eh?


      cLive ;-)

      Update: To clarify, those stats above are per year, but the lotto odds are per entry, so they are a little screwy, but you get the idea :)

        The lottery is basically a tax on the poor.

        I like to think of it as a stupidity tax :)


        "The first rule of Perl club is you do not talk about Perl club."
        -- Chip Salzenberg

        got me one of them "jobs" so I can help to fund my trip to germany this summer... the hours are going to kill me with school and all, but in the end it will be worth it. I hear German beer is really good.

        work it harder make it better do it faster makes us stronger more than ever hour after our work is never over.
          Interesting facts. But I've always wondered how these things are figured.

      • Being struck by lighting and killed (4,210,857 to 1)

          Is this for the whole year or every second of everyday? Does that make any sense?

      I guess the altruism probably comes with the open source movement. It'd be interesting to run the same poll inside Microsoft

      Yeah, if you ran it inside Microsoft you'd probably find people were actually contributing.

      All this Microsoft bashing seen in the open source community is really pathetic. Microsoft's Chairman gives 5.5 Billion (yes, Billion) to charity and what have these supposedly "altruistic" open source hackers contributed? Well, probably an average of a couple thousand lines of code.

      So these open source people are supposedly better? Any one who believes so is completely delusional.

      Criticize Microsoft for predatory business practices, criticize them for not complying with standards, but do not delude yourself into believing the company, or the people who work for it are somehow lesser than you.

      Have a nice day.

        I'm sorry you felt it best to remain an annonymous monk. If you want to argue something at least show your face. Membership here is completely free and is open to anyone.

        Yes, Bill and Melinda Gate's foundation has given 5.5 Billion dollars to what you call 'Charity'. However I'd like to point out that for someone with a wage of 50K you can guess that their net worth might be about 300K (just a guess) compared to Gates net worth being about 450B. Extrapolating percentages this means that Gates has donated 1.2% of his net-worth. For our 300K person, 1.2% means donating 3.7K to charity.

        Now, lets compare that to a 'couple thousand lines of code'.

        To write this code, to debug it and to maintain it would take 30mins per line. (This is a guess based on my own experience of planning, writing, error-checking, maintaining and documenting). If we take 'couple thousand' to be 2000, then we're talking about 1000 hours. At 1000 hours, you'd be being paid $3.70 PER HOUR to be as 'altruistic' as Mr and Mrs Gates.

        Next, can I point out that the Gates' gave 1.6 billion to 'Education'. Education donations are (annecdotally) in the way of Windows PCs to schools. These computers come with a one year licence to use MS software. At the end of that time, the schools have to either uninstall all the software or pay out huge amount for the licence renewals.

        While I do not consider myself better than anyone, I do not think your arguments hold water. I will criticize MS for whatever I want and will especially criticize Mr Gate's supposed donations to 'Charity'. As Mr Gates does not know me, I cannot talk to him personally about my concerns about his money-grabbing practices. Instead what I can do is talk in such forums as these. I can make people aware of the differences between MS and OS ideologies. Maybe many of the serfs are as altruistic as OS contributors and may write OS in their own time (which their contracts with MS will say belongs to MS).

        I am having a nice day. You do so to, Mr/Ms Anonymous.

Re: Top goal for 2003
by Gerard (Pilgrim) on Jan 09, 2003 at 21:03 UTC
    Get some of my music released. A mission I know, but hey. Check some of it out if you like. Good luck to all.
Re: Top goal for 2003
by neophyte (Curate) on Jan 16, 2003 at 09:57 UTC
    Losing weight and getting into shape are closely connected for me. Since both didn't work out the past 2 years, I started going to a Shaolin Kempo (sometimes referred to as Chinese Karate) course. Four hours of this a week should do the trick ... I hope.
    This is the only resolution I had for this year. I'll have lots to do anyway, since I just bought a house.


Re: Top goal for 2003
by markhoy (Novice) on Jan 09, 2003 at 15:11 UTC
    My top goal is less saintly- No more back aches! Please! Most of the other options are no good if you have a bad back :-(
Re: Top goal for 2003
by jk2addict (Chaplain) on Jan 09, 2003 at 19:38 UTC

    (pausingly in Shatner voice) Must.....Get.....More.......Servers....Can't Resist...New....Hardware....


Re: Top goal for 2003
by Starky (Chaplain) on Jan 08, 2003 at 21:11 UTC
    To finish my dissertation ....
Re: Top goal for 2003
by arc_of_descent (Hermit) on Jan 12, 2003 at 13:17 UTC

    Become an Uber-Coder!
    The rest will follow, I guess :-)

    And what is the exact meaning of an Uber-Coder?
    I guess that it means a better coder and looks like
    i'm right!

Re: Top goal for 2003
by chaoticset (Chaplain) on Jan 13, 2003 at 18:56 UTC

    Except for losing weight, winning the lottery, and getting a date, I need everything else on here. 'Get A Life' can easily be seen as an "All Of The Above" option. I want a new job, I want to become an Uber-Coder, I wanna get in shape, and I want a date.

    I also need to enforce my work ethic. Frankly, I feel like I slack off too much. Nothing wrong with being slack when it's time to be slack, but...

    You are what you think.

Re: Top goal for 2003
by yung_tw (Pilgrim) on Jan 09, 2003 at 02:15 UTC
    ahh.. I'd sure would like a 'all of above' option ^_^ But my biggest goal I guess is 'Become an Uber-Coder'
Re: Top goal for 2003
by Wysardry (Pilgrim) on Jan 12, 2003 at 05:53 UTC

    I chose "get a (new) job" as it makes most of the others more likely. The obvious exception being "lose weight" of course. :o/

Re: Top goal for 2003
by LD2 (Curate) on Jan 08, 2003 at 19:21 UTC
    ...have kids?!


    I didn't realize this was such a bad goal.. anyways, thanks scain. true true.. little time left..eep!
      If the goal is to actually have kids before the end of the year, you have very little time already--you better get cracking. Also, the assistance of some gonadoropins might help if you really want it to be plural. :-)

      Good luck!

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