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Re: fortune perlmonks

by jdporter (Canon)
on Jan 16, 2003 at 20:35 UTC ( #227487=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to fortune perlmonks

Whenever someone wants to record the saying of another monk, he/she should get that monk's permission, a priori. Nothing more is necessary; nothing less is adequate.

Users of the chatterbox understand that their remarks linger for a few minutes, naturally. What they don't expect is for their words to linger for years, on someone else's page somewhere. Therefore, if one is planning to violate that expectation, one would do well to obtain permission first.

The 6th Rule of Perl Club is -- There is no Rule #6.

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Re: Re: fortune perlmonks
by Mr. Muskrat (Canon) on Jan 16, 2003 at 20:41 UTC
    Nothing personal jdporter but...

    Based solely on this statement, it could be argued that every cblast35 mirror should be taken down...

    updated: Thanks for the clarification jdporter
    s/this/your first/;

      No, I don't think so. There's a big difference between recording something, and slightly delaying the evanescence of something.

      But yes, there must be a line somewhere. How long is too long?

      The other issue is context. cblast35 and its kin do not edit context.

      The 6th Rule of Perl Club is -- There is no Rule #6.

      The difference that makes such an argument unlikely is that with a cblast35 mirror, the comments are only retained for a short period of time, whereas using them in a fortune-like program is to retain them permanently. There is an inherent understanding in posting in the ChatterBox that as a chat, comments there are fluid, and not retained for posterity. In recording them for such a program, however, they become "etched in stone," as it were. (And while there are likely private logs maintained here and there by some, they are not public-access.)

      I agree that there is a treasury of comments and quips there that are highly entertaining. I also agree that it is reasonable, if assembling such a compilation, that one ask permission of the speaker to quote them with acknowledgement, or if the speaker would be uncomfortable with such, if they may use the quote and acknowledge it to a monk who wished to remain unnamed (or something along those lines).

      I was trying to make a point.

      I wholeheartedly agree that permission should be received prior to placing someone's quote in the fortune file.

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