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Experience for nodes (to display or not)

by l2kashe (Deacon)
on Feb 03, 2003 at 15:47 UTC ( #232273=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Hey all, just some thoughts on showing XP for nodes in threads.

Is there any particular reason you can only see the xp of a node once you have voted on it? I don't know the reasoning behind it, but lately it's been kinda buggin me that once I use up my votes for the day, I can no longer gauge how the rest of the community feels about a particular post or responses to said post.

I would just find it kind of helpful to be able to say hit a link and have the threads xp viewable. Or even on by default. Was this an attempt to provide unbiased voting, or something along those lines? Or is it just how it happens in the backend for whatever implementation specific reason?

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Re: Experience for nodes (to display or not)
by boo_radley (Parson) on Feb 03, 2003 at 16:57 UTC
    I've always thought of voting as a way to express your own approval or disapproval of a node. Why rely on what others have thought of it when you judge it yourself?

    A public service announcement from the public service announcement company

    Kids, when you're spending those votes for the day, you may sometimes be tempted to "go with the crowd" for popularity's sake. I'm here to tell you that's a sucker's way to use this vital democratic tool. Although commiserating with your chums over node-voting habits may be a relaxing way to spend your workday, if that person is only willing to 'go with' you for the way you vote, then they're someone you don't want to spend your time with!
    Seriously, the community's opinion of a node should not matter when you vote on it.
    (yes, there's worst nodes and best nodes. But they exist as negative and positive reinforcement mechanisms, I think)
      I guess I could sort by best, and while thats close to what I am looking for, its not really. I dont want to munge the relative order of posts, I just want the ability to see what other people think about posts. Im not talking about "going with the crowd" for voting, so much as seeing how people react to thoughts posted.

      Its more of an itch than anything else. Sometimes people have blunt/direct/harsh comments for posts, other times people are pretty easy going, and conversations ramble. I just want the ability to gander at how the rest of the community reacts to those types of posts.

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Re: Experience for nodes (to display or not)
by Mr_Person (Hermit) on Feb 03, 2003 at 16:14 UTC

    Well, I think it makes sense to not be able to see the XP before you vote. In theory anyway this should help you to be more objective and give the node the rating you feel it deserves instead of just "following the crowd". However, sorting the nodes by Best does kinda defeat that.

    Perhaps an option to show the XP for a thread if you've used up all your votes for the day (or can't vote) or if you don't want to vote on that particular thread would work?

Re: Experience for nodes (to display or not)
by zengargoyle (Deacon) on Feb 03, 2003 at 16:01 UTC

    you can change the Note order to Best in your user settings and get a good feeling of feelings.

Re: Experience for nodes (to display or not)
by Mr. Muskrat (Canon) on Feb 03, 2003 at 16:43 UTC
Re: Experience for nodes (to display or not)
by theorbtwo (Prior) on Feb 03, 2003 at 22:51 UTC

    I've long been of the oppinion that node reps should be publicly viewable. On the one hand, it does create the problem of people voting "with the crowd", and thus making node reps even more meaningless then they now are. On the other hand, node reps give useful information. People downvote nodes with bad information and upvote nodes with good information. That's useful for readers to know.

    (In fact, you know how newbies tend to write perl monks discussion nodes suggesting changes to site policy? That was mine. Let the gates open wide was once < -30, IIRC. (It's now at -8, which lends some creadance to node reps being worthless.))

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      Personally, I enjoy the Perlmonks Uncertainty Principle
      I don't know the status of a node until I vote and in doing so, impact a change on that node's status

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