in reply to Re: Re: Macros, LFSPs and LFMs
in thread Macros, LFSPs and LFMs

Thanks muchly for that. Never having done anything with Lispish languages, much less it's macro facilities, I've never really encountered macros in this form.

The perl.perl6.language thread was particularly useful. I'd read that bit on macros in Apo.6, but hidden amongst so much else, I think I must have closed my eyes and held my breath as it washed over me. Time to go back and read itagain. I think that LW summed up the pro's and cons of macros in this form with two statements--that probably shouldn't be taken out of context, but will serve me as anchors in my grep for further info and an opinion.

This is the most dangerous kind of return value, and the least likely to produce coherent error messages with decent line numbers for the end user. But it's also very powerful. Hee, hee.

A lot of Perl is fun, and macros are fun, but in general, you should never use a macro just for the fun of it. It's far too easy to poke someone's eye out with a macro.

And as far as Macros - can't wait ;-) goes--I probably agree, but I'll reserve judgement until I form an opinion. This is one of those things that I find very difficult to grasp the significance of at a purely theoretical level, a couple of practical uses will probably convince me.

I tend to be pretty impirical by nature. That's probably why I have such a hard time with pure math once you get beyond stuff you can at least model with a few empty loo-roll holders and some sticky-back plastic. I have vague memories of something about a blind French mathematican that proved that you can turn a sphere inside out (topologicaly speaking) without breaking the surface. I concluded that you would have to be blind to even concieve of such a notion:)

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