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A simple prayer

by lindex (Friar)
on Aug 07, 2000 at 14:00 UTC ( #26530=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

A simple prayer, a simple prayer for a Net::SSH

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RE: A simple prayer
by lindex (Friar) on Aug 08, 2000 at 07:33 UTC
    Ok this node has now gotten a -5 rep, just wondering why
    does nobody else think it would be nice to have a net module to
    interface to ssh? maybe theres allready one out there and Iam not
    finding it what.
    p.s. I think its rude to -- vote a node without telling the author
    why you think it sucks.

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      I voted the post down for the general reason of "what's the point?" In this case, your post was too brief for me to get a 'point' out of it. I want a motive. I wondered:
      1. What's the context? Why should we care that you want this module? It might be nice (although I think scp would be more useful), but
      2. Why are you telling us? Who is the intended recipient of this message?
        • Someone who could would write this module? I expect most people write modules when they need them, so it's unlikely you'll get a module this way.
        • Someone who agrees with you that it would be nice, but can make no contribution toward realizing that goal? Well, what's the point of that? I would understand the point of a manisfesto intended to make others agree with you, but this is just a statement. It's like walking up to someone on the street and saying, "World peace would be nice." The person will probably nod and agree, and once alone wonder why you bothered to tell her/him so.
      There you have it. I voted it down because it wasn't clear to me what purpose it served, even after asking a few other people. I will probably make fewer -- votes of this type in the future because I originally started making them because of the posting bonus, when it was fairly safe to assume posts you couldn't see a point to existed just to give their owner a little exp.

      As to whether such a module exists, I have no idea as it's not something I've ever looked for.

      I have no problem with explaining my votes, but I prefer to wait for a request to do so. Some people want to hear it and some people don't.

      Ps. osfameron, ssh is 'secure shell client', which provides encrypted communication between two hosts over an insecure network. scp ('secure copy') allows encrypted data transfer.

        Thank you for your input :)

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      I want to add that I think Net::SSH is a great idea, and that I voted your post ++.

      Many times on perlmonks and in other perl discussion forrums someone recomends using part of the ssh family (ssh, scp, etc...) to do something on a remote machine because of the security afforded by the ssh protocol. This is great, but then your perl program has to launch a separate process to do part of the work. This separate process must be cared for, monitored, and managed. It would be far better to have SSH protocols built-into perl as a module.

      Anyone who think that there is no place for Net::SSH probably enjoys using system to launch ftp instead of using Net::FTP. Those are not the kinds of programs I would want to have to work with or maintain.

      Though I didn't -- this (and haven't yet used a -- vote...) I'd like to make just one point:
      I don't know what 'ssh' is, nor what a net interface to it would be.

      Pardon my ignorance: I could, and probably should, look this up on Perlmonks, the hacker's dictionary or a number of other places, but then it is no longer a "Simple Prayer". (So I haven't bothered doing the research, though if anyone would care to de-ignorance me, I'd be obliged).


        SSH stands for Secure SHell. Think telnet, on angel dust, with an attitude, a hangover and nukes to fend off everyone else that didn't understand the phrase, "Go ahead, make my day".


RE: A simple prayer
by steveAZ98 (Monk) on Aug 09, 2000 at 01:45 UTC
    I voted it up. I think it is clear what you were looking for and I would also be interested in a interface to ssh. I haven't had the chance to look for any relevent modules.

    Low context, high impact posts are the best kind!

    If your using unix/linux and you don't know what ssh is, you should really check it out. It is a telnet, rcp, etc. replacement that encrypts the communication so your communications are not sent in clear text.


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