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•Re: Re: Re: Re**2: Help with the concept of closures.

by merlyn (Sage)
on Jul 06, 2003 at 09:22 UTC ( #271756=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: Re**2: Help with the concept of closures.
in thread Help with the concept of closures.

No, he should make an attempt to answer the question that was posed rather than point at a generic answer that resides on another site.
Not everyone is aware of the body of my work on my site. Over 160 articles, many of which address the questions that come up here.

Had the original poster said "I read merlyn's article on...", I'd never have referred them back to there. But I bet there's info in that article that applies, and more. Hence, it's a useful contribution, with a very large reward-to-effort ratio.

Yes, I could spend more time constructing a custom answer. But I didn't, this time. I do, sometimes. I try to make a positive contribution. Are you saying I'm making a negative contribution? Maybe it's not as positive as you want. Fine. Keep wanting that. But I may or may not satisfy you. I can only hope I'm helping to satisfy the original poster, and I'll let them speak for themselves.

Also please stop accusing me of taking action because I'm smug. F.U., if you think that. Stop putting me on a pedestal. That's your problem, not mine. Get over your trip with apparent authority. I'm just a guy. I write a lot, but everything I write has to stand on its own, not on some sort of historical reputation that you think I have. I don't ask for any kind of respect but what the next guy already gets from you. If you're not willing to give me that, then it's your apparent problem with the "me" that's in your head, not the actual me.

-- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
Be sure to read my standard disclaimer if this is a reply.

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by sauoq (Abbot) on Jul 06, 2003 at 11:01 UTC
    Not everyone is aware of the body of my work on my site. Over 160 articles, many of which address the questions that come up here.

    Great. And so you've decided to use this site to advertise? Note, however, that there are also sure to be 160 sites that answer the OP's question; but he came here.

    Hence, it's a useful contribution, with a very large reward-to-effort ratio.

    Well, such responses keep your effort to a minimum, at any rate. But you'd have the OP wade through an article where the first 80 percent doesn't address his question at all.

    Besides, it's a column. And it's offsite. Offering it as an answer isn't exactly fostering a dialogue. Like hattmoward suggested, you could put a little explanation around your plug.

    Also please stop accusing me of taking action because I'm smug. F.U., if you think that.

    I'm not accusing you of taking action because you are smug. I just think you act smugly. I think your answer, which starts with the phrase "as usual", is a smug answer. It certainly has an air of self-satisfaction.

    I write a lot, but everything I write has to stand on its own, not on some sort of historical reputation that you think I have.

    That's right. And I'm calling you on it. Answering, "I've got a column on that" does not, IMO, stand on its own. I think such an answer is little more than a cheap way to increase your link count so google ranks your site higher.

    -sauoq
    "My two cents aren't worth a dime.";
    
      I think such an answer is little more than a cheap way to increase your link count so google ranks your site higher.
      If you think that, and that is the core of your objection, there's nothing I can say that could possibly convince you otherwise. I'm glad your opinion is in the minority, however. You sir, are an anomaly, no longer worthy of a debate.

      -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
      Be sure to read my standard disclaimer if this is a reply.

        I'm confused, what exactly did Randal do wrong? He posted a link to a well-written, relevant article answering the poster's question. Is that not acceptable behaviour here? Does it somehow harm the discussion?

        As for raising search engine rankings, it wouldn't make a difference in any decent search engine. 200 links from the same site shouldn't be any better than 100, otherwise I could royally screw their rankings up.

        I'd wager your criticism stems from something other than posting links to a relevant article. If that's the case I'd suggest you judge each comment by its own merit. Hopefully Randal's right and you are in the minority, otherwise this is one messed up site ;-P

        I'm glad your opinion is in the minority, however. You sir, are an anomaly, no longer worthy of a debate.
        There is nothing like made up statistics. Just drop it. Far too many questions go like
        Question
          Answer
            Hey, why didn't you answer it the way I like?
              maybe
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        The answer to "Hey, why didn't you answer it the way I like?" does not matter. Way too much energy goes into nothing. Make a concious decision merlyn, and just drop it. You spend way too much time getting into this crap and you just breed more of it.

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