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Re: Re: Non-English posts on Perlmonks

by Anonymous Monk
on Jul 13, 2003 at 01:34 UTC ( #273702=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Non-English posts on Perlmonks
in thread Non-English posts on Perlmonks

However, for archiving purposes, it would be good if the posts are retitled in english (though the contents kept in their original language).

Wouldn't this create confusion as to the language used in the post? English-only speakers may view the post expecting english, and non-english speakers might pass it over assuming it's in english. Am I missing something here?

The only conceivable problem I see with native language postings is moderation. What if something that appears to be another language is really just semi-randomly generate strings? Or something offensive (or in violation of copyright laws, etc) is posted and nobody else hear speaks that language? This definately shouldn't discourage native-language postings all together, but it might be best to, at first, stick to ones where there's an obvious level of visitors knowing them (german, french to name two).

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Re: Non-English posts on Perlmonks
by Abigail-II (Bishop) on Jul 13, 2003 at 02:02 UTC
    The only conceivable problem I see with native language postings is moderation. What if something that appears to be another language is really just semi-randomly generate strings? Or something offensive (or in violation of copyright laws, etc) is posted and nobody else hear speaks that language?

    There are three different issues. First, what happens if someone posts something offensive, and there's noone here that understands the language? Let me answer that with an old riddle If a tree falls in a forest, and there is noone to hear it, does it make a sound? Can something be insulting if there's noone insulted? Does it matter?

    The second issue is, what if someone posts something that's a copyright violation. Well, what happens if someone posts something in English that is a copyright violation? My bet is that nothing happens, until someone notices and informs the right people. My bet is, the same happens if someone posts a copyright violation in a language other than English.

    As for the third issue, it's far from trivial to generate random strings that look like a language but isn't. And suppose among the thousands of monthly posts here, one or two are a clever spoof. I don't think that's a problem. It hasn't been a problem in all the years this site existed, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

    Abigail

      so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

      Neither would I. In fact, since I don't run this site, I wouldn't worry about it at all :)

      That said, it's all a matter of cost vs. benefit. The probability of any damage actually coming from copyright infringement is next to none, worst case you get a cease and desist letter (and even that has a very low probability).

      As for offensive content and falling trees, you never know who might walk along after the tree has fallen. It would reflect poorly on Perlmonks, but the odds are slim and definately wouldn't outweigh the benefits.

      it's far from trivial to generate random strings that look like a language but isn't.

      I've never done it, so I can't say for certain, but in theory it would appear to be remarkably easy. A simple example could be to just rot13 an english post, add/subtract a specific amount of padding from each word, and vary the punctuation slightly. More complex examples could be done in under an hour as well. Granted, I doubt it would ever cause a problem, but it certainly doesn't appear difficult.

        I don't know about you, but to me (and others I know), rot13 is blatantly obvious, and I doubt padding/punctuation would change that. I don't think making up a plausible language within an hour is possible.

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