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The native languages of Monastery users

by Mago (Parson)
on Jul 15, 2003 at 21:37 UTC ( #274591=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Hello Monks!

I've read that discussion: "Non-English posts Perlmonks", I had a idea: search and identify all the native languages of Monastery users, to calculate the real size (environment) of this "Babel's Tower" (Holy Bible expression that means "mess", "something fuzzy").

I am asking for colaboration from everybody! Any help will be welcome, I'm sure!

Thanks,

MAGO
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Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by bart (Canon) on Jul 16, 2003 at 00:19 UTC
    Dutch.

    Could we make this a poll?

      Sure. If someone follows the procedure and does the work to come up with a suitably complete list of languages, order to put them in etc. and submits it.

                      - tye

        Could be a large poll, this site, lists 6,800 "main" languages! <grin> And this site lists over 200 languages with > 1 million speakers.

        Here are a couple of possibles using data (and order) from here

        Top 12 languages-

        • English
        • German
        • Spanish
        • Portugese
        • French
        • Russian
        • Hindi/Urdu
        • Bengali
        • Arabic
        • Japanese
        • Mandarin
        • Indonesian (Malay)
        • Other
        • I only speak Perl
        • I don't speak you insensitive clod!

        Language groups-

        • Indo-European
        • Dravidian
        • Afro-Asiatic
        • Caucasian
        • Nilo-Saharan
        • Niger-Congo
        • Uralic
        • Altaic
        • Korean
        • Japanese
        • Miao-Yao
        • Tai
        • Austro-Asiatic
        • Sino-Tibetan
        • Austronesian
        • Aztec-Tanoan
        • Penutian
        • Andean
        • Equatorial
        • Pidgins and Creoles
        • Other
        • pod
        • Language agnostic $@#! words

        --
        Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. -Basho

        That's what this thread is good for: collecting a preliminary list of languages.
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by edan (Curate) on Jul 16, 2003 at 08:22 UTC
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by Limbic~Region (Chancellor) on Jul 15, 2003 at 22:06 UTC
    Mago,
    My native language is English, but that's not why I am replying. My recollection of the Tower of Babel referred to a period of time in Genesis where all the people in the land spoke the same language and were constructing a tower that almost reached Heaven. God spread the people out to all the lands given them different languages so that never again would humans reach that close by working together. I guess the "mess" after the breakup aligns with your reference, but please correct me if I am wrong.

    Cheers - L~R

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by rozallin (Curate) on Jul 20, 2003 at 12:33 UTC
    Native: English (British Spelling)
    Near Native: Scottish Gaelic (an endangered minority language spoken only by <80,000 people, now becoming extinct)
    Good: French
    Basic: German, Russian (though I've forgotten most of the latter now)

    It's one of my life ambitions to learn how to speak four or five languages fluently, although I've never got round to studying any Italian (which is to be my fifth language).

    --
    rozallin j. thompson
    The Webmistress who doesn't hesitate to use strict;

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by mpeppler (Vicar) on Jul 16, 2003 at 05:32 UTC
    Define "native language" :-)

    I was born in Sweden, have German father, grew up in Switzerland (the French-speaking part) and learned English as my fourth language.

    My native language is Swedish and German, but I speak (and write) French and English better than my "native" language(s).

    Michael

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by lestrrat (Deacon) on Jul 15, 2003 at 21:48 UTC

    Japanese/Portuguese.

    Of course, I don't much remember my portuguese any more...

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by sri (Vicar) on Jul 15, 2003 at 22:48 UTC
    My native language is german.
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by allolex (Curate) on Jul 16, 2003 at 00:12 UTC

    Hi Mago,

    It might be more interesting to ask what other languages the Monks speak/read/write and how well. I suggest the following scale:

    • Native: Well, your mother tongue
    • Near-Native: Very few errors, passes as a native with non-natives
    • Good: No too many mistakes
    • Fluent: Has no trouble communicating any idea
    • Basic: Can get the gist of most conversations
    I suggest this because the information might be useful for i18n efforts.

    And in this spirit:

    • Native: North American English
    • Near-Native: German, French, English English ;)
    • Good: Spanish, Italian
    • Fluent: Portuguese, Catalan
    • Basic: Dutch
    Yes, I know. A lot of you have looked at my code and must have wondered what I was doing with all my time because I certainly wasn't learning Perl. Now you know I'm a bit of a tart when it comes to languages. ;)

    --
    Allolex

      Native: English
      Near-Native: French
      Basic: Spanish (very very very very basic...)


      If the above content is missing any vital points or you feel that any of the information is misleading, incorrect or irrelevant, please feel free to downvote the post. At the same time, please reply to this node or /msg me to inform me as to what is wrong with the post, so that I may update the node to the best of my ability.

      OK !

      Native: Brazilian Portuguese
      Near-Native: Portuguese
      Good: Spanish
      Fluent: English
      Basic: French


      MAGO
        Me too :)
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by weresprout (Initiate) on Jul 16, 2003 at 01:14 UTC
    Hi Mago,

    My native tongue is English, however... I'll have a go at:

    1. French (Vocabulary good, but writing skills erm... bad)
    2. German (See above)

    HTH

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by Jenda (Abbot) on Jul 16, 2003 at 22:00 UTC
    • Native: Czech
    • Good: English, Slovak (it's so close to Czech that it almost isn't a language, but a dialect (I just succeeded to enrage all Slovaks around ;-))
    • Poor: Russian (ja nepomnju bukvy)
    You should ask me about programming languages ...

    Jenda
    Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live.
       -- Rick Osborne

    Edit by castaway: Closed small tag in signature

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by Chady (Priest) on Jul 16, 2003 at 08:05 UTC

    Arabic - عربي


    He who asks will be a fool for five minutes, but he who doesn't ask will remain a fool for life.

    Chady | http://chady.net/
      Bulgarian, and English for me, but Chady
      "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than speak and remove all doubt" :)
      Chady,

      Nicely put!. Theres quite a few of them out there (Arabs). I'd certainly back you up on that call, that is, to include Arabic as a "main language".

(wil) Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by wil (Priest) on Jul 16, 2003 at 13:48 UTC
    Welsh.

    (que: laughter)

    - wil
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by valdez (Monsignor) on Jul 16, 2003 at 06:57 UTC

    Italian. Ciao, Valerio

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by Juerd (Abbot) on Jul 16, 2003 at 08:19 UTC
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by thelenm (Vicar) on Jul 16, 2003 at 17:04 UTC

    My native language is (American) English, but I speak enough Japanese, French, and German to be able to get around in most areas of those countries. And I can usually understand some Spanish here and there because it's so similar to French.

    I'm currently studying (British) English since I find it fascinating and want to be able to impress/confuse all my friends (and better understand Monty Python's Flying Circus).

    -- Mike

    --
    just,my${.02}

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by VSarkiss (Monsignor) on Jul 16, 2003 at 17:26 UTC

    Hm, I didn't see my main entries on this thread so far, so:

    • Native: Armenian
    • Near-native: Persian, English (though I probably write English best)
    • Reading: German
    • Vaguely familiar: French, Spanish

Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by Dog and Pony (Priest) on Jul 18, 2003 at 01:09 UTC
    My native language is Swedish, and I'd say "good" to "near-native" in English - I'm not sure if it is for me to judge. :)

    I understand written and spoken Norwegian pretty ok (I think), and I can probably read some not too complicated Danish - both are not *that* different from Swedish. I couldn't make myself understood in either though. :)

    I studied some German a lot of years back, and at gunpoint I might be able to communicate a little, while reading it ranges from "No problemo!" to "Huh?", depending on the text and probably the subject. Same probably goes for listening to it, though I rarely have the opportunity.

    And oh, I think I know a few cooking terms in finnish, such as saying "sausages with fried potatoes". Lol. "Makkara ja paistettu peruna"? Never mind the spelling, it was years and years ago, when I worked as a chef at a place that had a lot of finnish truck drivers stopping by. :)


    You have moved into a dark place.
    It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by YAFZ (Pilgrim) on Jul 16, 2003 at 12:53 UTC
    My native language is Turkish (I mean the official language of Republic of Turkey).

    (Am I a minority? :)
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by J0hny_Lightning (Novice) on Jul 23, 2003 at 14:20 UTC
    Native: English
    I bet it would be really cool to see perl poetry in another language.
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by Putzfrau (Beadle) on Jul 27, 2003 at 19:41 UTC
    Native: French (Canadian style) Native: Jouale ('sti) Native: English Swearing: Latin, German, and some Japanese and of course l33t speak "The way of the Hacker, the Way of the Sword and the way of Zen are identical, for they have the same purpose - that of killing the ego." -- Adapted from Yamada Jirokichi
Re: The native languages of Monastery users
by Mago (Parson) on Jul 15, 2003 at 21:41 UTC

    My native language is portuguese.

    MAGO

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