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If you using IE, just press "Ctrl + End". Indeed, Zaxo is right, even "End" works.
On Win32, most applications understand "Ctrl + End" as end of document, and "End" as end of a section (for example, th end of a line). In this particular case, they simply result the same.
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Tried Mozilla, and it followed the general convention on win32.
jacques, page down does not do the same thing, as you have to press it more than once for a long page. But "End" or "Ctrl+End" bring you to the end by one click. |
Re: Re: Post link
by jacques (Priest) on Nov 16, 2003 at 01:11 UTC
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Or, if you read my original post, I could also use the page-down key.
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I knew when I was composing my message, that I would get a bunch of replies such as "Just use such and such a key/combo". That's why I mentioned page-down. You're missing my point. I think there's something nice about having something to click. | [reply] |
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Or, if you read my original post, I could also use the page-down key.
jacques, are you irritated with pg or something? Both he and Zaxo gave you sound advice. End or ctrl+end worked for me in all 13 of the browsers I tried across four different platforms. And hey, you don't even have to use the mouse! End is one key over from page down so the training to start using end instead of page down will be short! Perhaps you'd prefer a page where you could post to any of the sections with the switch of a simple drop-down menu. I think it's a good idea although I am afraid some lightning chuckers might not agree. Of course, another idea is to turn your monitor over so that you always start at the bottom. Yet alas, you'd need to scroll to the top to enter your post and all the text would be upside-down.
For what it's worth, I do think there should be a "Make a post" link at the top of each major section that just links to a named anchor named "post". I haven't started a thread yet but I think I might one day when I have something of value to say. I also think it'd help my dog navigate the site as she has trouble using the keyboard (her paws seem to be too big).
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I think there's something nice about having something to click.
And I think there's something to be said by listening to experts such as those at http://www.useit.com who say that the fewer parts of the user experience taken up by navigation instead of content, the better.
Since I have a key combo, and maybe even a browser button, that already lowers me to the bottom of the page, why send an HTML doodad with every page hit that does exactly the same thing? It'd take up valuable screen space and HTTP space and HTML space. Ugh!
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...and HTTP space...
I assume you mean bandwidth with this. Have you looked at the HTML generated by the Monastery lately? I don't think the extra bandwidth for an extra HTML doodad would be noticeable.
Unfortunately, the UseIt people have a day off (at least, I can't reach their site right now), so I can't judge what they're saying. But having been involved in creating user interfaces for more than 25 years, I try to follow these rules:
- If you don't need to scroll (the information you need always fits the screen), then have a single location for the navigation (preferable at the right bottom corner for top to bottom, left to right languages) as that is where you're eyes will end up when you're done reading the page.
- If you cannot be sure that the information will fit on one screen, make sure there are identical navigation locations at the top and the bottom of the document.
Of course, if the client wants to have it otherwise, who are you to argue? You can lead a horse to a drinking pool, but you can't force it to drink.
Liz
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The fewer parts of the user experience taken up by navigation instead of content, the better.
Good navigation is rare. For some reason, web authors have a hard time with it. And bad navigation can be very frustrating, especially when the content you need is important.
Since I have a key combo, and maybe even a browser button, that already lowers me to the bottom of the page, why send an HTML doodad with every page hit that does exactly the same thing?
We live in a point-and-click world. :)
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Re: Re: Post link
by barrd (Canon) on Nov 16, 2003 at 06:32 UTC
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And for Apple Mac users (with IE) its a function (fn) & end keys combo*.
* At least on my G4 laptop, I don't have a 'proper' keyboard to test on. | [reply]
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For what it's worth, tull size Apple keyboards have a separate end key that scrolls to the bottom, without pressing a function key.
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