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Update: Well BrowserUk, you can do whatever you want. If you want to learn more you can. If you want to continue to justify why you reject change, go right ahead. Just realize that you are considered a minority now and i for one am just glad that someone with your lack of vision is not on my team. For example, SSADM is specific example of Waterfall development -- which is pretty much the opposite of Agile, but one would not get that impression if they listened only to you. Thankfully we have Google and Wikipedia (and people who actually read what you link to).


Jun 11, 2015 at 23:56 UTC jeffa i get the impression that Perlmonks is anti-Agile ... that's like being anti-Internet in the late 90's
Jun 11, 2015 at 23:57 UTC jeffa no seriously, no wonder this place has atrophied so much
Jun 11, 2015 at 23:58 UTC jeffa we got the top monk here dissing on Agile, trying to compare it to SSADM when he knows damn well what a fallacy that is, but he doesn't expect anyone to read up i guess
Jun 11, 2015 at 23:58 UTC jeffa who the hell do you think you are fooling?
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:00 UTC jeffa i remember how the early genesis of Agile, Xtreme Programming was advocated in these halls at the turn of the century ... this was a much better place then, a much more healthy community
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:00 UTC jeffa and you wonder why the best monks all left? look in the mirror!
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:01 UTC jeffa Ruby and Python are much more in line with Agile, BTW ...
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:01 UTC jeffa and so is Perl, but you wouldn't know about that from hanging out here anymore
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:08 UTC jeffa sweeet ... my table makes a chess board with a mere table => { width=>'80%'}, fill => '8x8', td => { style => { 'background-color' => [ (qw(white black))x4, (qw(black white))x4] } } :D
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:13 UTC RonW I think too many companies have management that cope with agile development. They demand that devs fix whatever today's hot issue is <b.right now, then complain how many "evaluation releases" get made
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:13 UTC RonW Cool
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:14 UTC RonW s/cope/can't/cope/
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:15 UTC jeffa all of that is detailed here
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:15 UTC jeffa they are going to find themselves unable to cope with scaling also
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:16 UTC RonW Interesting article
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:16 UTC jeffa BrowserUK is an absolute fool if he thinks this methodology is a passing fad -- far too many successful companies are getting ahead thanks to it
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:19 UTC RonW The devs I personally know that dislike agile have all had bad experiences with it in corporate environments
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:19 UTC jeffa it was very obvious that he was just waiting to play that SSADM card, hoping to make himself look like a God while disrespecting Agile at the same time
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:20 UTC jeffa i want to remind him of someone similar Ozymandias
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:24 UTC RonW Even my employer claims we follow a SSADM process, but the reality is that with constantly changing requirements and stake holders wanting to see immediate results, we have to do agile
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:26 UTC RonW Otherwise, everything we released would be obsolete before we were half done
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:27 UTC jeffa i can almost do a full chess board :D -row1 => sub { '&#9817;' }, -row6 => sub {'&#9823;' }, table => { width=>'80%'}, fill => '8x8', td => { align=>'center', style => { 'background-color' => [ (qw(white gray))x4, (qw(gray white))x4] } }
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:28 UTC jeffa yes, technology has accelerated everyone's lives, code released tomorrow is too late
Jun 12, 2015 at 00:28 UTC RonW Cool


In reply to Re^3: Nobody Expects the Agile Imposition (Part VIII): Software Craftsmanship by Anonymous Monk
in thread Nobody Expects the Agile Imposition (Part VIII): Software Craftsmanship by eyepopslikeamosquito

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