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We do not know how many people feel that they dare not post here.
This indeed is one of the famous "unknown unknowns" (Donald Rumsfeld).
We do see threads opened-up by newbies with an opening request ... even before they state their business ... of please donít pillory me for asking. A perfect stranger finally screws-up enough nerve to open a new thread, and begins his conversation by saying this. How many others never get that far?
That is a big jump you are making here. For many people this is just a standard opening phrase. Perhaps because they have been pilloried on other sites where newbies are less welcome (SO springs to mind here). But on PerlMonks I cannot remember anyone regularly putting down newbies. Some gentle admonishing of newbies about the formatting of code and/or asking to show some effort, is probably the worst we have seen here.

I'm not saying this site is nirwana, paradise and heaven all rolled into one and indeed we have sometimes acrimonuous discussions between regulars, but rarely if ever it is directed against newbies, unless they continuously fail to show some effort and/or ask the same question over and over again without taking any learning from previous answers.

To wrap it up, I don't think Perlmonks merits the "abusive web-site" tag at all.


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