Beefy Boxes and Bandwidth Generously Provided by pair Networks
No such thing as a small change
 
PerlMonks  

Re: Fearing the demise of Perl

by Abigail-II (Bishop)
on May 21, 2004 at 12:37 UTC ( [id://355255]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Fearing the demise of Perl
in thread Fearing the demise of Perl

For those of you who consider mr wasser automatic for flames, think of the time when you were "young and foolish".
I don't like what you are implying here. You are suggesting that we all once behaved like Wassercrats. Could you either backup your claim with references (the Internet has a good memory) or retract your words?
I know the young part is a compliment Wassercrats.
"compliment"? Do you mean "competent"? I don't know Wassercrats age, nor do I think that matters. I don't discriminate, and I don't think "older" people should be judged differently than "younger" people. As for Wassercrats being competent - perhaps he is. However, I don't recall any post of him suggesting he is. All I remember are posts of him attracking a lot downvotes. I haven't decided yet whether he's a troll or just a sad case.
But he brought up a valid point using some statistics.
He did? He brought up a point? What point did he bring up?
His analysis is shallow to say the least, and I'd consider it not-read-into-enough. Too simplistic. But that gives NONE of you the right to treat him less than a human being.
Who did? Did anyone call him names? Please don't accuse people without being specific. Give us names and quotes. I reread the thread, and I don't see anyone treating him as "less than a human being".
And I've told him before, you should at least consider what people say, but if he doesn't want to do certain things, that's his will.
Yes, but if he doesn't like how people react on what he's saying, he shouldn't voice his opinion. Freedom of speech works both ways.
The only outcome is possibly bad code.
The only Perl code posted in this thread was mine. Could you elaborate on why you consider that "bad code"?
So to you who have begged him to leave, what makes you any better that you should stay here yourselves?
I can think of a couple of reasons. Perhaps the most important reason is that those who begged him to leave don't post articles with sentences like I might consider switching to another language if this trend persists.
Are you too good to teach others the errors in their ways?
Now I am confused. First you critize us from writing replies to the "young and foolish" Wassercrats - yet you expect us to teach him his errors. Do you expect us to visit him in person?
Do you not know how to properly refute an argument?
I think that before anyone can refute an argument, there should be an argument in the first place. I think the thread was like this:
  1. Wassercrats composes some statistics.
  2. Wassercrats might consider switching to a different language because of the statistics.
  3. People said "fine with us".
What do you expect people to say? No, please, don't do that? Didn't you say about him if he doesn't want to do certain things, that's his will? If he doesn't want to program in Perl, isn't it your own idea that it's his will he shouldn't?
Do you not know how to interact with the community?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
At least wassercrats has the due dilligence to try and makes some sense of things. It's not always right, but he tries.
He can try to make all the sense he wants. But anyone who posts here, or elsewhere on a more or less public forum should expect people react to their postings. If they can't stand that, then don't post publicly.
And that's certainly worth a lot more than your unneeded flames.
Djee, what a good last sentence of a post that's mostly a flame.

Abigail

Replies are listed 'Best First'.
Re: Re: Fearing the demise of Perl
by exussum0 (Vicar) on May 21, 2004 at 13:12 UTC
    I don't like what you are implying here. You are suggesting that we all once behaved like Wassercrats. Could you either backup your claim with references (the Internet has a good memory) or retract your words?
    I doubt that anyone here has never made a false statement and not retracted it. No, I won't retract.
    "compliment"? Do you mean "competent"? I don't know Wassercrats age, nor do I think that matters. I don't discriminate, and I don't think "older" people should be judged differently than "younger" people. As for Wassercrats being competent - perhaps he is. However, I don't recall any post of him suggesting he is. All I remember are posts of him attracking a lot downvotes. I haven't decided yet whether he's a troll or just a sad case.
    I meant what I said, and said what I meant. I know that he's no youngin'
    He did? He brought up a point? What point did he bring up?
    That there's smaller growth in perl. I dont' agree with it. end of story.
    Who did? Did anyone call him names? Please don't accuse people without being specific. Give us names and quotes. I reread the thread, and I don't see anyone treating him as "less than a human being".
    Then you haven't read the entire thread. Re-read it.
    Yes, but if he doesn't like how people react on what he's saying, he shouldn't voice his opinion. Freedom of speech works both ways.
    Yes it does. And it doesn't stop me from trying to get people to be a bit less inflamatory themselves in hopes that maybe with a little kindness, Wassercrats changes his ways. He's not a complete troll. He has some value in him I believe. And as it goes both ways as you so nicely put, I won't retract my words as you've asked earlier.
    The only Perl code posted in this thread was mine. Could you elaborate on why you consider that "bad code"?
    Not in this thread. his past posts.
    Now I am confused. First you critize us from writing replies to the "young and foolish" Wassercrats - yet you expect us to teach him his errors. Do you expect us to visit him in person?
    It's called due diligence. Otherwise, we should just give everyone attitude problems and reject them based on first impressions. And worse yet, give the impression we are elitist. Even though Wasser has had a history of bad ideas, being immature about it just makes the community, our community, look worse... immature.
    What do you expect people to say? No, please, don't do that? Didn't you say about him if he doesn't want to do certain things, that's his will? If he doesn't want to program in Perl, isn't it your own idea that it's his will he shouldn't?
    Yes, "Haven't you left yet" is a fine argument. It totally disagrees with the information he posted.
    Have you stopped beating your wife?
    Yes, 'cause it's her turn to beat me. Wtf?
    Djee, what a good last sentence of a post that's mostly a flame.
    Reread my post. First half was not a flame.

Log In?
Username:
Password:

What's my password?
Create A New User
Domain Nodelet?
Node Status?
node history
Node Type: note [id://355255]
help
Chatterbox?
and the web crawler heard nothing...

How do I use this?Last hourOther CB clients
Other Users?
Others imbibing at the Monastery: (5)
As of 2024-03-28 16:23 GMT
Sections?
Information?
Find Nodes?
Leftovers?
    Voting Booth?

    No recent polls found