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Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan

by japhy (Canon)
on Aug 12, 2004 at 15:14 UTC ( [id://382279]=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Yesterday, I received Settlers of Catan, which I had ordered from Amazon on Sunday night. I'd played the game several times before, but it was in the posession of my sister who lives in Maryland (while I live in New Jersey). I wanted to have my own copy of the game. I did the same thing when my sister got me into the game Carcassonne.

Today, I was talking about Catan on, and found out that five or six people on the channel actively play both games, and know of online portals and whatnot. (There's gnocatan on sourceforge, for example.) I was a little surprised that these two games were uncommonly popular in #perl. Do any of you monks play these games?

While I enjoy playing these games in reality, I always have some urge in the back of my brain to make a Perl version (a terminal- or maybe Tk-based one), or at least to write some server software so others can use it for their versions. I don't see the practicality in doing that right now, and I'm sure when I end up getting the time, someone else will have done a much better job. Oh well. There's always Real Life.

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Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Aug 12, 2004 at 15:17 UTC
    At Origins in 1995, I won several Catan tournaments and have played it at Origins every year I've gone since. I also played a bunch when I lived in Madison (a strong gaming town). Never played Carcasonne, though.

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Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by simon.proctor (Vicar) on Aug 12, 2004 at 15:34 UTC
    I got it recently but haven't had chance to really sit down with my friends and play it (they prefer the pub). Like you I'd love an online version to play.
Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by Solo (Deacon) on Aug 12, 2004 at 17:42 UTC
    Avid boardgamer here. I'm sure I'd be a better programmer if I were a better boardgamer. The converse is probably also true.

    My current favs (excluding the titular games):

    • Attack!
    • Game of Thrones
    • Citadels
    • Ricochet Robot
      Boardgamers, unite!

      Have you played Axis and Allies? Better yet, Cosmic Encounter? :)

Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by Corion (Patriarch) on Aug 12, 2004 at 16:42 UTC

    For those who want to play the game online, there is the (albeit German) (Java required). There are also English speaking people online there, and lots of lots of other (board-)games to play. The implementations there aim to be faithful to the normal board rules, and for Carcassonne and Settlers (there called "Siedler von Katan") the implementations are pretty close to the rules.

Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by castaway (Parson) on Aug 12, 2004 at 16:50 UTC
    Ooh, I'm quite impressed that these german games (both of which were game of the year once), are actually well known in other places too.. I havent played for a while, but I love both of them..

    Oh, and my claim to fame in this area, I met the guy that designed Siedler of Catan (spelt with a C, even here) at the games fair in Essen a few years back.. Great place to be, btw. (November every year in Essen..) I also have a signed copy of the PC game. (Note, it's nowhere near as fun as the board game.. hohum..)


Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by xdg (Monsignor) on Aug 12, 2004 at 17:13 UTC

    Well, this is a departure from perl, but you can play multiplayer Settlers of Catan on a Java client. The original version was and it's since been open sourced on Sourceforge so there are some clones popping up. If you're ever on the northwestern site and see a "hiphut" labeled game with xdg in it, that'll be me.

    As a side note, though I've not yet played it, many of my friends who enjoyed Settlers are now raving about a game called "Puerto Rico".


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      Yes, I found the Java client at Northwestern shortly after I started playing the game. And this is now the second time I've heard of "Puerto Rico"... I'll have to find out what it is.
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Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by blokhead (Monsignor) on Aug 12, 2004 at 22:41 UTC
    My friends and I have played Die Siedler since sophomore year of college. One of the guys brought the game back from a trip to Germany and we were hooked ever since. We are purists and only play the German version (spending the extra $$ to get it on ebay). Even some of the artifacts of mis-translating the rules are still house rules. Additionally, the game accounts for about 75% of my German vocabulary knowledge: siedlung, entwicklung, langste handelstrasse, monopol, strassenbau, ritter, rauber, etc..

    Nowadays, since we're all geographically separated, we play online using NetSet. It's for Windows, but I've always had good luck running it in Linux under Wine.

    Siedler always goes better with Pokey Stix (no, not Pocky sticks).


Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by Steve_p (Priest) on Aug 12, 2004 at 23:27 UTC

    I've been tempted to play Settlers of Catan, but I prefer Illuminati. Fnord!

Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by Gilimanjaro (Hermit) on Aug 13, 2004 at 11:01 UTC
    At my previous job, the devs alternated between playing Soldier of Fortune II and a network version of Catan after working hours.

    And it's standard gear for every camping trip / wintersports vacation.

    The winner is usually a programmer in my experience... :)
Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by kelan (Deacon) on Aug 13, 2004 at 02:38 UTC

    Carcassonne is one of my very favorite boardgames. The two expansions "Inns & Cathedrals" and "Traders & Builders" make the game quite fun, indeed. More things to keep in mind, more ways to get points, more ways to subvert others:) I like it most because it's easy to pick up and play a game whenever, but the randomness keeps it interesting.

    Settlers of Catan is a great game, as well. I've played both the classic version and with the "Cities & Knights" expansion, which is excellent. This one is more involved and often takes a couple hours with my group of friends. It's fun for a planned night of game-playing and socializing.

    I also agree with the recommendation of Puerto Rico. Once you've played it a couple times, you realize the huge number of possibilities for choosing buildings and crops. It also has what I think is a neat twist on the old turned-based game mechanic.

    On a related note, if you haven't heard of it yet, you should check out It's full of game reviews and recommendations. We've found a number of fun new games through that site.

Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by rdm (Hermit) on Aug 13, 2004 at 05:46 UTC
    In Perth we have monthly Catan tournaments. I do OK, but my wife does better! Before each tourney, she asks "Am I 'Evil Leece' today?"

    Other games we're fond of include: Medici, Princes of Florence, Taj Mahal, Carcassone, Attack!, Vinci (which is way, way cool), History of the World, Diplomacy and El Grande. And Button Men ( Rob enjoys hacking Perl, boardgames, geocaching, and beating people up.). A definite theme there. Except for Button Men.

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Re: Carcasonne, Settlers of Catan
by belg4mit (Prior) on Aug 13, 2004 at 15:29 UTC
    Yes, but it's only worth playing with all of the expansion packs and in a fog-of-war / island-discovery map :-D

    /me notes there was a /. article hier about a M$ Catan game coming soon to a machine near you

    I'm not belgian but I play one on TV.

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