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Let's discuss diotalevi's home node button

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Re: Let's discuss diotalevi's home node button
by diotalevi (Canon) on Sep 18, 2004 at 05:31 UTC

    The random image code has been there for a few weeks. The change is that today I also added a button which makes it easy for other monks to add you to their /ignore list. If it displays poorly on your browser, sorry. That wasn't the intention. I altered the markup a bit so it should be a bit more obvious now. They are and should be entirely separate.

    As for the actual /ignore, it isn't as if the button isn't obvious. It says /ignore Wassercrats and that is exactly what it sends to perlmonks.org.

      Sorry for the misunderstanding. It seemed intentionally too close to the random image link.
Re: Let's discuss diotalevi's home node button
by eric256 (Parson) on Sep 18, 2004 at 04:50 UTC

    Ironic considering your own home node contains numerous buttons that post messages on behalf of users. Granted yours doesn't hide itself, but you do have several buttons labeled simply "?". Perhaps you should consider your own node and behaviour before complaining about others.


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Re: Let's discuss diotalevi's home node button
by FoxtrotUniform (Prior) on Sep 18, 2004 at 03:54 UTC

    You've cleared a few of your nodes with the comment of "I don't want to help to this community", or the like. Why would you expect this community to help you?

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      As BrowersUK has in his tagline, "Examine what is said, not who speaks." Let's do discuess diotalevi's button.

      On the one hand, if the button were a node, it would be considered a troll/flame/counter to the spirit of the site, and probably reaped. It antagonizes a monk - regardless of who it is - while adding nothing to the site.

      On the other hand, do we want to start examining each other's home nodes for 'acceptable content'? Personally, I'd rather not.

      My solution would be to flame the crap out of diotalevi (in CB or in my home node) for poking fun at other monks Whether or not he thinks those monks deserve it is beside the point. No one granted him judicial powers (or if they did, he's abusing them, because he's obviously not impartial).

      BECAUSE... I was taught that 'he did it first' wasn't a good enough excuse for bugging my brother/classmates/etc. To me, diotalevi is being a troll, but as long as whatever rules are applied consistently, I'm happy.

      So if I can put

      diotalevi is a big troll!

      on my home node, it's cool. Otherwise, the button should be removed.

      I have gone back and read a lot of Wassercrats' older nodes. I'm still reading. At least two years ago, he was a programming neophyte, knew just enough to be dangerous, and had some posting habits that drove some people nuts.

      One thing he's really good at, though, is making it obvious just how biased and troll-able several people on PM allow themselves to be. He pushes people's buttons sometimes, gets his nodes downvoted, no big surprise.

      But one thing I've noticed: Many monks here have pretty big 'buttons' with hair triggers. Say something they don't like, and BAM! All your XP are belong to us! Furthermore, the downvoting process itself then removes the recipient's ability to respond in kind. Get a couple of monks pissed and it becomes a mob rule. Never mind that those monks are themselves now acting like big ol' flaming jerks.

      Put another way, if flaming and trolling is so bad, why do some many people flame Wassercrats instead of just downvoting his nodes?

      What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Get rid of the button, diotalevi. It's presence makes you the jerk.

      --J

        He pushes people's buttons sometimes, gets his nodes downvoted, no big surprise.

        That's the definition of a troll.

        why do some many people flame Wassercrats instead of just downvoting his nodes?

        What purpose would downvotes serve?

        Makeshifts last the longest.

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Re: Let's discuss diotalevi's home node button
by Your Mother (Bishop) on Sep 18, 2004 at 05:16 UTC

    Well, I'm incensed!!! His "Makov Yourself" link doesn't capture and URI encode usernames with spaces!!! How dare he?!?!?!?!? Why if I ever catch up with that bastard, why I'll...

    Wait, what was the OP about?

    I enjoy your zaniness most of the time, Wassercrats, but you've made your bed on this site, in no uncertain terms. Don't go crying to the gods that you'd rather be sleeping in the High Rollers Suite at the Bellagio. Again I gotta come out in support of the 8 bit eric; your own automatic chat buttons make this a pot-kettle-karma situation.

Re: Let's discuss diotalevi's home node button
by chaoticset (Chaplain) on Sep 18, 2004 at 04:12 UTC
    Hm. Well, if there were some sort of guiding principles, some sort of philosophy that the Monastery adhered to, then this would be a valid concern. In fact, I believe there are, so --

    Ah, I forget. You dislike general principles and philosophy. Clearly, it would be a deep offense to you to take actions based on principle and philosophy. I feel certain no action will be taken, in deference to your beliefs.



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