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Re: Too much NON-front-paging!

by tachyon (Chancellor)
on Sep 24, 2004 at 15:43 UTC ( #393557=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Too much NON-front-paging!
in thread Too much Front Paging

There are some logical holes in your argument.

The regulars have discovered Newest Nodes and use it so don't really matter either way.

If an irregular vistits say 4 times a month what will they see on the Front Page? A: Who knows? The average node will spend 2 hours at the top of the FP before it starts descending. Say 10% of all FP nodes are excellent. So given the current rampant front paging what is the statistical probability of them seeing an excellent node? We can all work it out, but if you halve the number of FP nodes, while keeping the same number of excellent nodes you have then doubled the chance a random visitor will see a VHQ node.

I struggle to see why this is bad. If they only visit once a week, and the FP turns over once a week they will always seen new content. If the turnover is low and quality related they will always see high quality posts.

cheers

tachyon

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Re^2: Too much NON-front-paging!
by tye (Sage) on Sep 24, 2004 at 16:32 UTC

    From what I can tell, the largest fraction of visitors visit about once a day and hit the front page. The front page should be mostly brand new every day.

    - tye        

      So given 2 screenfuls as the scroll span of the average user 4 nodes/day ought to do it :-)

        If 2 screens is the "scroll span" of the average user, then it needs to be one node per day and only one section. That'd suck as a web site. *shrug*

        If you don't like scrolling, then certainly the front page is a lousy place for you to bookmark. If you don't like clicking (especially on a site that is rather slow compared to most web sites), then scrolling can be fabulous.

        Yes, I saw the smiley; I still felt the point was worth commenting on.

        - tye        

Re^2: Too much NON-front-paging!
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Sep 24, 2004 at 16:56 UTC
    So, what's preventing us from adding a link to Best Nodes? Or, even, making Best Nodes the Front Page? If you want people to only view quality nodes, then the monastery already has a system in place for determining the quality of the node. I don't want to argue the relative merits of XP, but it at least means that more than one person felt it was a quality node.

    In fact, to make it onto the Daily Best Nodes list, you generally have to break 20 XP. If you limited that to only root nodes, the threshold drops to, say, 10 XP. But, that means at least 10 people felt it was worthwhile. (And, given the personality voting that goes on, 10XP usually means at least 12-15 positive votes.)

    So, it almost sounds like you're arguing for replacing the Front Page with Best Nodes. Or, am I missing something?

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