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Re: Re: Re: Fair Use When Referring to Book Answers?

by Zo (Scribe)
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Hmmm. Randal L. Schwartzy.. I've checked out your site, and with "all do respect" I am the owner (legally purchased) of one of your texts. I'm just stating that this is site is a forum of people all with a similar interest in Perl. Anything printed here in the cyberworld can be looked at in different ways. Yes it's written (typed) and could be printed out, but I feel this media is more of a form of "voice".. .. speaking out in a community way for all to hear. I'm sure when you read the paper, etc.. most say.. "i've read that..... yadda yadda yadda...".. I've never heard anyone say: "According to the written expression of Sir Published Guy of XYZ Tribune, section H, page 3 that the Jets beat the Dolphins last night, which was printed in accordance with the NFL..etc.etc." (a bit far fetched I know) I am just a lil' monk in the large programming community and this site is one of the best, and I do try not to come here w/every lil' question, but sometimes this is the best source. I asked a question (in my writeups) where to get help.. not specifics but other places of knowledge... and in reply, have listened to my fellow monks and have "respected" those published and threw down the money to pay your bills. God Bless America! -Zo
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(Ovid) Re(4): Fair Use When Referring to Book Answers?
by Ovid (Cardinal) on Nov 20, 2000 at 21:37 UTC
    I've never heard anyone say: "According to the written expression of Sir Published Guy of XYZ Tribune, section H, page 3 ...
    Okay, I'm usually a nice guy, but this is ticking me off. It reminds me of an old saying: "Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

    You seem to suggest that we "never" cite our sources. I have quoted from other sources and attribute my quotes. Further, if you type "Super Search" in the upper left hand search box and then type in "Cookbook" in the resulting Super Search box, what do you see? Bingo! Plenty of monks cite their sources. Does it happen all of the time? No.

    Anything printed here in the cyberworld can be looked at in different ways.
    Why? Theft of copyrighted material is still theft of copyrighted material. I realize that many people state that information should be free, but I disagree. While I would love to see all information be free, the point is basic: if someone wants to charge for the information they dispense, so be it. If you don't like it, don't pay for it. But don't steal it, either.
    ...and have "respected" those published ...
    Hmm... exactly how do you justify the above statement when you have referred to merlyn as "Randal L. Schwartzy"? If you don't like the guy, that's fine, but let's try to be a bit mature about it, shall we?

    Cheers,
    Ovid

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Fair Use When Referring to Book Answers?
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Nov 21, 2000 at 10:06 UTC
    That's not a fitting example. Newspapers often compile sources from wire sources (in which case the original author or the name of the service receives credit), or their reporters perform their own research. That's primary source research, and it's completely different from citing bibliographic sources.

    When I was in undergraduate school, one semester I did a research paper which involved reading through 1200-1900 year old source material. It still had to be cited.

    Within the context of source code, I like the GNU guideline for the largest possible code snippet that does not fall under the GPL -- ten lines is all you get. But it's the choice of the author as to the license of the code. Not you.

    Give credit where it's due.

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