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Re^5: People who write perl, Perl and PERL

by merlyn (Sage)
on Nov 21, 2005 at 20:31 UTC ( #510551=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^4: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
in thread People who write perl, Perl and PERL

I'm not sure why you want to close the door on them.
As a fellow Perl hacker, I'm not.

As someone who would work for me, that's my choice.

I'm not sure why people are making more of this than it is. I'm making no moral judgements about people who have a CPAN id, perlmonk name, or are subscribed to a mailing list.

I'm merely assessing how I would sort out people who would work for me from people who aren't. I'm baffled by the response I've gotten in this thread.

-- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
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Re^6: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
by Tanktalus (Canon) on Nov 21, 2005 at 21:06 UTC
    I'm baffled by the response I've gotten in this thread.

    I'm not. This is the first I've noticed a "work for me" clause to distinguish your opinions. You started out making what appeared to be a blanket statement about being "not into Perl." You never said, "I would demand a certain level of participation in the community from anyone I chose to extend an employment offer towards." If you had, I'm pretty sure you would have gotten a few more ++'s, a lot less --'s, and, by far more importantly, a completely different set of responses.

    I see no problem in how an employer wishes to discern who will make a good employee. I have no issue that you probably would not want me working for you. (Probably for other reasons ;-}) That's your entitlement and your right, as far as I'm concerned. That I think you'd be losing out on a star performer (there's my overblown sense of Hubris again) is not really relevant to your decision process (or maybe it is - I've never been interviewed by you, nor am I likely to be).

    Your original statements had no sense of this being an employment issue from the side of the employer. The thread started with the topic being from the other side - cog talking about evaluating potential employers. In that context, it would be like me evaluating how good of a perl employer you would be. And, given your zeal and knowledge of perl, that would be great. But given your ability to get your point across in a socially sensitive manner, I would predict a less-than-ideal working environment, which would not only affect my productivity, but my happiness as a person, and thus the reason why I probably will never be interviewed by you.

    I may disagree with the way you evaluate candidates for employment, but I will not (and probably will never) disagree with your right to do so in whatever manner you believe is best for your company. All responses in this thread so far, however, have been without the benefit of the knowledge of your topic because you did nothing to dissuade anyone from believing you were on the original topic.

Re^6: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
by itub (Priest) on Nov 21, 2005 at 21:08 UTC
    It's obviously your right to choose the people who work for you. But how can you say that you are "making no moral judgements about people" after saying "there's only an ethical requirement that taking from the CPAN also means giving to the CPAN", and then get surprised by the reaction? That's what I find surprising.

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