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Re^3: A New Respect

by chromatic (Archbishop)
on Mar 12, 2006 at 09:31 UTC ( #536052=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^2: A New Respect
in thread A New Respect

If someone I care about were showing the warning signs of extreme stress or a psychological disorder, I hope that the people who noticed it would not turn away. How can I not show a fellow human being even a touch of the same concern?

Take offense if you must, but I certainly intended none. (Psychiatrist? Psychologist? Counselor? Mediator? There are plenty of ways to discuss a situation with a neutral party that do not involve medication.)

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Re^4: A New Respect
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 12, 2006 at 10:00 UTC

    With the utmost respect, this is a load of utterly self-serving crap. I'm doing this for your own good - how could I turn away from someone who is so deeply lost in error? What you are presenting is a thinly-veiled ad hominem argument, touching protestations of concerns notwithstanding. It seeks to invalidate the OP's post without actually addressing the issues he or she raised. There was no reason to raise the issue of mental health. If you were suggesting that a less biased third party might help, then any helpful person - friend, teacher, coach, co-worker, etc. - could be used. No need for this person to be a mental health worker.

    No competent mental health professional would dare make a diagnosis, nor form an opinion of someone's mental health, based solely on what that person writes in a post or series of posts. What you are seeing is a minute fragment of who this person is, a fragment devoid of almost all emotional clues, relying entirely on his or her chosen words in response to matters that take place here. You have no basis for making any diagnosis of stress, psychological disorder, or other condition, even if you are a professional in the field. Since you are apparently not a professional, your "diagnosis" is even less relevant. It is nothing more than a shameful putdown.

    You seem to be trying to imply that, since this person sounds upset, and since some people who have mental problems are upset, therefore, this person has mental problems. This does not follow, of course. He or she may also have a valid complaint about unfair treatment. Most people get upset when treated badly. That's not a sign of illness.

      It seems appropriate to me. Especially after commenting on how many people the OP has a problem with in a chatterbox discussion, I got a pm from the OP stating

      "your ADHD or other mental deficits are not my problem."

      "To be civilized is to deny one's nature."

      He suggested that they might talk with a nuetral third party and because you have negative preconcieved notions of what that means you got all this? I might be strechting it a bit but i think he was probably hoping that a third party unrelated to this incident might be able to give some clarity and help that no text responce to the OP could possibly provide specificlay because they lack the emotional clues to tell the OP that we are sincere and not satiric.

      Eric Hodges

        You are misstating the facts. He suggested that OP see a mental health worker, which is an indirect way of insulting someone. There was not an iota of compassion or concern in that comment, despite the teary-eyed pleadings to the contrary.

        If he were suggesting a third party, there was no reason why it had to be a mental health worker. Any uninvolved person - friend, co-worker, coach, etc. (as I commented previously) would have done.

        Turn it around for a moment. Let's say you posted something, and someone suggested you see a mental health worker. Would you not feel that this person was being insulting? Would you believe for a moment that he or she was only trying to help you, by saying you're unstable, or stressed, or whatever? I certainly wouldn't.

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