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Re^3: Perl is dying

by eric256 (Parson)
on Jul 15, 2006 at 03:39 UTC ( #561391=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^2: Perl is dying
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"Python has almost completely taken over the desktop scripting market that Perl was once making great inroads into".....seriously? I mean maybe it has while i've been hiden away in my turtle shell. I certainly know it is common to come across VB and C++ solutions, maybe even Java, but i've never been searching for something and come across python at all. That's hardly proof that it isn't taking over, just that if it is, I've failed completely to notice. Is there even any way to prove that type of thing? If so what kind of metric would you use and can you compare a couple of language?

Eric Hodges

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Re^4: Perl is dying
by diotalevi (Canon) on Jul 15, 2006 at 15:45 UTC

    Yesterday, I was surprised to find out that my employer has Ruby and Python code running somewhere on the production servers. Doing what, I don't know.

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Re^4: Perl is dying
by apotheon (Deacon) on Jul 19, 2006 at 07:26 UTC

    I see where anonymonk got that impression, I think: Python really looks like the new Universal Solvent being used to dissolve all system administration problems by a growing contingent of faithful devotees in the realm of open source unix. It has gotten to a point where people are reinventing wheels left and right (I tend to guess because somewhere in the backs of their brains they think those wheels will roll better if they're made of pythons instead of perls). Start paying close attention to what options come up while searching for candidate applications to solve problems using a software management system such as Debian's APT, and you'll probably notice that a lot of stuff is described not only by its functionality and feature set, but by the fact that it's written in Python. Perl doesn't tend to get that attention: utilities written in Perl are described by way of functionality and feature set, and that's it. Often, to find out what language was used to write it a Perl utility, you have to apt-get source the thing and look at the shebang line. More to the point, the Perl stuff mostly tends to be old, currently maintained and updated but not newly conceived, material.

    There's a tremendous body of code written in Perl, though, and Python is still playing catch-up. There's so much system administration stuff written in Perl that it may very well be the case that we're not getting massive growth now because almost everything has already been written (in Perl), and nobody needs to write it (again). Thus, Python looks like it's thriving while Perl looks like it's dying from certain perspectives — perspectives that don't take into account the fact that much of the Python development is duplicating old work in Perl.

    That's not the whole of it, of course, but I think that accounts for some of the situation, and some of the perceptions that have arisen.

    print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
    - apotheon
    CopyWrite Chad Perrin

Re^4: Perl is dying
by Stoffe (Sexton) on Jul 19, 2006 at 22:39 UTC

    Maybe the keyword is scripting, I don't know. However, it may just be the posters choice of platform - python is very common as a desktop language writing all sorts of (mainly small) apps under Linux. In Ubuntu, apps are either compiled or Python, as is much Gnome apps in general. Perl or Ruby are sadly rarely seen at all. Numbering totally, against Win and Mac, it would be insignificant, of course.

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