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Re^3: Are monks hibernating?

by davebaker (Monk)
on Feb 14, 2007 at 05:31 UTC ( #599859=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Are monks hibernating?
in thread Are monks hibernating?

For me, Perl is every bit as powerful and fun to use this month as it was last month. Even more, actually; new modules or improvements to existing modules are posted to CPAN every single day.

Even if it's true that the level of participation has gone down, the level of participation is still enormous. As always, that participation includes people who are new to the language. Many of them are in the process of becoming regular Perl users who will make valuable contributions to the community or even to the Perl code itself.

What does it matter if Perl isn't as "popular" as it was last month or last year? Sheer popularity matters when electing a Prom King and Queen at high school (although I've never seen that achievement actually listed on a resume).

Perl is popular enough, meaning it continues to attract enough bright, interesting new people to push the language forward.

"Re-invigorate interest"? That implies there isn't any interest or that there isn't enough interest. There continues to be an enormous amount of interest. It's more than enough interest.

"Re-kindle the flame"? That implies the flame has gone out. No way, man.

What we need to do on PerlMonks and in other public venues is to make the new people feel good so they'll stay a while. Some of them are on their first date. Others are going out for the second or third time. They are trying to decide whether they'd like to take the time and effort to get to know this person and possibly make a commitment. You're out to eat at a nice restaurant with your date (the "PerlMonks Cafe") but when you go into the restroom you overhear some guy talking about your date: "Yeah, I've gone out with her and she still gets dates but not as many as she used to ... so she's seen her best years." You return to your table a bit discouraged. Do those other guys know something you don't know, or are they just fascinated with the new girl in town who wears tight sweaters (we'll call her "Ruby")? If you let that kind of popularity be your guide and end your date now, you might well miss the opportunity to get to know the one who would be your loyal soulmate for life.

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Re^4: Are monks hibernating?
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Feb 14, 2007 at 06:19 UTC

    Hmm. You sound like me.

    But still I stick by my comments in the post above. There is, on the evidence of the statistics referenced it the post it replies to, a long term decline in the questions being asked about Perl. In as much as that reflects to some degree, the levels of interest and use of Perl, whilst neither critical nor worrying for those of us that use Perl, it is interesting. On that basis alone, I don't think it is unreasonable to wonder what it would take to curtail the decline, or even reverse it.

    As I mentioned above, I'm far from abandoning Perl. Even when I find reasons to code something in some other language, I invariably reach for Perl to prototype it first. And whenever I take one of my frequent forays off into exploring another new (to me) language, I invariably find myself returning to Perl for anything I wish to solve, rather than play at. I'm far from being one of the "fashion sheep" I refer to elsewhere.

    Still, Perl has it's limitations, and ignoring them or pretending they do not exist benefits nobody.


    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
Re^4: Are monks hibernating?
by j3 (Friar) on Feb 15, 2007 at 18:36 UTC
    ... just fascinated with the new girl in town who wears tight sweaters (we'll call her "Ruby")

    I dated Ruby for a while. We hung out at the student center a few times. Caught a few on-campus movies. She's nice, but I'd prefer to meet with Perl behind the stacks any day. ;)

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